Safety

NYCgrrl wrote:

The Constitution has been amended...at least 25 times in the life of the document but the right to bear arms remains and thus is the current law of the land. You want guns to maintain your militia fine by me but not a right I need to exercise. Pretty sure I said that on page one of this thread.

The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with "maintaining" a militia. It does, however, deal directly with the ability to form a militia in effect for the security of a free state by allowing THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms. An effective militia cannot be formed unless the citizenry has the right to arms. Syntax and punctuation is critical in this case to have an adequate understanding.

NYCgrrl wrote:

Interestingly enough it's the same type of argument you used in an earlier post: a biased and emotional video to make your case for why guns are needed by the citizenry.
Strange, how that doesn't work for another poster in your opinion;).

If you believe that mob violence against innocents is meant to create an emotional bias, then so be it.

NYCgrrl wrote:

Me? I prefer gun free zones in my life such as whilst praying, waiting for public transport, sleeping,etc. Gives me some relief from day to day cares w/o feeling there is a boogey man lurking behind every bush.

You're either demonizing lawful and responsible gun owners or suggesting that criminals actually care about laws...or both.

The question about respecting other people's property rights (in terms of gun free zones) gets sticky in a hurry. If you happen to find yourself in an establishment that forbids them, is it then better to leave your firearm in your car in a non-secure parking lot? We recently visited a place that had a no-gun policy on certain parts of the property, but not others. I've always found it best to just carry on (pun intended) in such situations instead of increasing potential risk caused by mis-use of firearms by those who could break into your vehicle.

Currently the best solution (IMO) is to have rules like many states (my good ole FL included), where a "no guns allowed" sign doesn't have the force of law unless the property owner (or their representative) asks you to leave and you refuse to do so. This way, you're still legally respecting the property rights of others even if you initially choose to carry. But of course, the idea of "concealed" means that folks ought not easily be able to CONFIRM you're carrying a firearm. I, nor anyone I know, has ever been asked to leave somewhere because of carrying a firearm.

This relates entirely to campgrounds as well. We camp often in Georgia State Parks. Georgia is an open-carry state. As recently as 18 months ago, the state parks had signs banning firearms. Now, they've changed the signs to allow for properly licensed individuals to carry in accordance with state law. Georgia reciprocates with FL and many other states, and they also establish "no guns allowed" signs as not having the force of law.