Second Vehicle Fees?
Some CG's charge extra for a 2nd vehicle on a site. A vehicle pulling a TT or 5er doesn't pay a 2nd fee, are they expecting a Motorhome with a Toad to pay extra? What do you do??? ST
Forum Discussion
Why are all motorized vehicles entering a Michigan State Park CG required to have an entry permit?
As usual, the few spoil it for the many in life, living, and recreation. Michigan has over 100 state parks with CG's not even including the huge number of state park/DNR recreational vast areas with primitive camping allowed. Most are on the water and/or have miles of trails for pedal bikes, or motorcycles, or even dune buggies/quads. The state parks are very popular and have high occupancy numbers. After years of having state park users come in with 6-10+ in a motorized tow vehicle, van, converted bus, etc with a towed trailer having 2-6 off road and/or road legal motorized vehicles (motorcycles etc) and/or 2-4 vehicles while only paying for one site fee/day, something had to be done as the site crowding and tremendous noise got out of control. Some came with a CC truck or van etc with 3-6 tents and the motorcycles in the truck's bed and 1-3 other pickups with 2 motorcycles in the bed and all stayed on the one paid site. What a mess!
Therefore, the rules were very smartly changed to require each and every motorized vehicle entering a state park or CG to have a valid motorized vehicle entry permit. Problem solved! The new rules work and work extremely well for all CG users now. Of course, the innocent got additional charges due to no fault of their own like is the norm! It's your peers who are to blame for rule changes to fix problematic issues, not the a state park or national park, or city/county park etc. Some people are just plain cheap and won't pay their own way so enforced rules and mandated fees keep them out and that's the way it is! Excuses don't cut it and most do not care as the state parks have increased in usage now and deficit operation has turned to 100% self-funded and a very healthy financial condition.
Michigan State Parks are very well maintained and staffed and are very healthy financially too now. You can buy a resident entry pass to any and all anytime for a whopping $11/year per vehicle or a non-resident entry pass with the same privilege's for $29/for the year. Or, you can buy a daily pass for $9. You decide which is in your best value (bang for the buck) interest! Sometimes, you do what has to be done for the best outcome:
Michigan State Park Camping Rules today: copied and pasted
•Check-in with staff at campground office or follow posted registration instructions.
•Complete registration and occupy campsite for a portion of every day. A member of the camping party is expected to stay overnight on site in order to meet the occupancy requirement.
•Campers must have a motor vehicle permit for entrance into any state park or recreation area.
•Camp only in designated site.
•Only one tent and one trailer are allowed per campsite.
•No more than six individuals are allowed per campsite.
•Build campfires in designated fire ring only.
•Horses allowed in designated campgrounds only.
•Dogs are allowed on a leash no more than six feet long, they must be attended at all times, and are not permitted on swimming beaches.
•Fireworks are not permitted.
•Discharge of firearms, air guns, slingshots, or arrows are not permitted in campground boundaries.
•Radios, generators, or other amplified devices may not be used in a manner that creates excessive noise.
•Camping permits begin at check-in time of 3 p.m. on the first day of camping.
•Checkout time is 1:00 p.m.
•Camp for up to 15 consecutive nights in any separately administered campground. Combined multiple reservations that exceed 15 nights could result in a mandatory reduction of the combined stay so as not to exceed the 15-night limit.
•No more than 2 vehicles in addition to the primary camping shelter.
•A responsible person 18 years of age or older must register for a site.
As usual, the few spoil it for the many in life, living, and recreation. Michigan has over 100 state parks with CG's not even including the huge number of state park/DNR recreational vast areas with primitive camping allowed. Most are on the water and/or have miles of trails for pedal bikes, or motorcycles, or even dune buggies/quads. The state parks are very popular and have high occupancy numbers. After years of having state park users come in with 6-10+ in a motorized tow vehicle, van, converted bus, etc with a towed trailer having 2-6 off road and/or road legal motorized vehicles (motorcycles etc) and/or 2-4 vehicles while only paying for one site fee/day, something had to be done as the site crowding and tremendous noise got out of control. Some came with a CC truck or van etc with 3-6 tents and the motorcycles in the truck's bed and 1-3 other pickups with 2 motorcycles in the bed and all stayed on the one paid site. What a mess!
Therefore, the rules were very smartly changed to require each and every motorized vehicle entering a state park or CG to have a valid motorized vehicle entry permit. Problem solved! The new rules work and work extremely well for all CG users now. Of course, the innocent got additional charges due to no fault of their own like is the norm! It's your peers who are to blame for rule changes to fix problematic issues, not the a state park or national park, or city/county park etc. Some people are just plain cheap and won't pay their own way so enforced rules and mandated fees keep them out and that's the way it is! Excuses don't cut it and most do not care as the state parks have increased in usage now and deficit operation has turned to 100% self-funded and a very healthy financial condition.
Michigan State Parks are very well maintained and staffed and are very healthy financially too now. You can buy a resident entry pass to any and all anytime for a whopping $11/year per vehicle or a non-resident entry pass with the same privilege's for $29/for the year. Or, you can buy a daily pass for $9. You decide which is in your best value (bang for the buck) interest! Sometimes, you do what has to be done for the best outcome:
Michigan State Park Camping Rules today: copied and pasted
•Check-in with staff at campground office or follow posted registration instructions.
•Complete registration and occupy campsite for a portion of every day. A member of the camping party is expected to stay overnight on site in order to meet the occupancy requirement.
•Campers must have a motor vehicle permit for entrance into any state park or recreation area.
•Camp only in designated site.
•Only one tent and one trailer are allowed per campsite.
•No more than six individuals are allowed per campsite.
•Build campfires in designated fire ring only.
•Horses allowed in designated campgrounds only.
•Dogs are allowed on a leash no more than six feet long, they must be attended at all times, and are not permitted on swimming beaches.
•Fireworks are not permitted.
•Discharge of firearms, air guns, slingshots, or arrows are not permitted in campground boundaries.
•Radios, generators, or other amplified devices may not be used in a manner that creates excessive noise.
•Camping permits begin at check-in time of 3 p.m. on the first day of camping.
•Checkout time is 1:00 p.m.
•Camp for up to 15 consecutive nights in any separately administered campground. Combined multiple reservations that exceed 15 nights could result in a mandatory reduction of the combined stay so as not to exceed the 15-night limit.
•No more than 2 vehicles in addition to the primary camping shelter.
•A responsible person 18 years of age or older must register for a site.
