Side by side towing

I don't think any of the options above would be legal behind a travel trailer. Double-towing is only legal behind fifth wheels.

Rob

JaxDad wrote:

WNYBob wrote:
Check out swivelwheel

Those things are a maximum of 5’ X 8’ and 1,200 pounds, I think you’d be hard pressed to find a SxS that small.

The Freedom Hauler is rated at 2600 lbs. Most if not all side by sides are under 2600.
The Freedom Hauler is not considered a trailer as it is a solid attachment to trailer thus sway is not an issue.

Freedom Hauler/Idaho Tote

And the Freedom hauler literature basically says it will be a handful behind a TT. As in don’t even try it unless you have an Arrow or Propride hitch. That’s enough to tell me it will make pulling a TT with another 2 tons of @ss back there wagging the dogs tail a real chore and that it may/will handle like a bag of d!cks.

And $12-13k, not including the new hitch for the truck? Dump the TT and buy a toyhauler. At least you’re spending your money on something that you know works and is actually marketable (very marketable) upon resale.
Shoot, the total expenditure for that giddyup is half the cost of the 4 year old never used basically new toyhauler we bought that would haul even the largest 4 seater buggy.

Gooma wrote:
If you had read the OP, you would know he was asking about a TT, not a Motor home.

Thanks for the snotty response. Yes, I misread it and thought it was for a moho, because towing an SxS behind a TT was too weird for my brain to grasp.

With that context in mind, don't do it. Your TT bumper won't handle that load and it will be a nightmare to tow.

I don't see a description of your SxS (model or weight). I assume it's a two-seater, but it's hard to know. Either way, it's going to be too much weight and probably not even legal in most states to tow something behind a TT instead of a 5er or moho.

Like I said before, I've camped with 100s of different OHV enthusiasts and seen every nutty setup imaginable, but this isn't one of them.

What about a stacker rack for your pickup? I'd never do this myself, but it looks safer than anything behind your TT. And your truck bed is free since you're pulling a TT.

And you didn't mention your tow vehicle, but are you sure it can handle the weight?

Maybe do like Grit said and just bump up to a toy hauler and don't worry about trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. Toy haulers have come a long way and there are some really nice ones out there now. They used to be pretty stoic, but they're very comfortable now.

RCMAN46 wrote:
TThe Freedom Hauler is not considered a trailer as it is a solid attachment to trailer thus sway is not an issue.

Show me that it's "not a trailer"... coming from the officials policing it...not the salesman (same goes for swivel wheel trailers).

Actually, it may be unlikely to sway relative to the back of the trailer but dropping 400-700lb of hitch weith on the back of a travel trailer is very likely to result in a low hitch weight on the truck....low hitch weight percentage is a common cause of travel trailer sway and it will happily drag around the side by side.

The reason 5ers can get away with pulling a small trailer is due to the high pin weights typical of 5ers (along with higher overall weights and axles being further back).
- A 10,000lb 5er will typically have 2000-2500lb (20-25%) on the pin. If the hitch weight of 2nd trailer is say 500lb, it's going to remove around 300lb off the pin weight, leaving 1700-2200lb (17-22%). That's unlikely to cause a problem.
- A travel trailer is typically lighter, say 8000lb, and will have a hitch weight around 900-1100lb (12-15%). If the second trailer again has a hitch weight of 500lb, it's likely taking 350-400lb of the travel trailer (there is a difference as the axles are further forward on a travel trailer). Now you are looking at around 550-700lb (7-9%). Around 10-12% hitch weight is where sway problems typically develop with travel trailers, so you are well into a risk of sway.

Years back I built a couple trailers for friends that had VW powered rail sand buggies. Drop coupler on ground, back straddle the tongue to ramps that took rear axle of buggy over trailer axle. Jack tongue up so a saddle picked up front axle, lower on the ball. Worked fairly slick.
Not sure but I think most states that allow double tow require lead to be 5th wheel connection.

valhalla360 wrote:

RCMAN46 wrote:
TThe Freedom Hauler is not considered a trailer as it is a solid attachment to trailer thus sway is not an issue.

Show me that it's "not a trailer"... coming from the officials policing it...not the salesman (same goes for swivel wheel trailers).

While I didn’t look up the law for “no particular place” I do know that traffic laws are pretty uniform when it comes to definitions of, and classes of vehicles.

A “trailer”, in every definition I’ve seen in the many laws I have looked at is always “a vehicle drawn upon a highway by a motor vehicle” and then goes on to exempt things like farm implements and other motor vehicles, and specifically, motorcycle side-cars which when rigidly affixed (not hitch) to a bike become part of it, not ‘towed’ by it.

Y’all are still sharing fine old memories and bickering about something that don’t matter and unlikely to see the OP back to talk about their idea anyways

JaxDad wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

RCMAN46 wrote:
TThe Freedom Hauler is not considered a trailer as it is a solid attachment to trailer thus sway is not an issue.

Show me that it's "not a trailer"... coming from the officials policing it...not the salesman (same goes for swivel wheel trailers).

While I didn’t look up the law for “no particular place” I do know that traffic laws are pretty uniform when it comes to definitions of, and classes of vehicles.

A “trailer”, in every definition I’ve seen in the many laws I have looked at is always “a vehicle drawn upon a highway by a motor vehicle” and then goes on to exempt things like farm implements and other motor vehicles, and specifically, motorcycle side-cars which when rigidly affixed (not hitch) to a bike become part of it, not ‘towed’ by it.

So still waiting for a definition from the authorities that it isn't a second trailer. Swivel wheel trailers are not rigidly affixed as they can still pivot up and down.