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As we age, we've downsized our RVs - we currently have a small TT and a TC. But I suspect a Class B in our future

Most other countries get a free pass

After some research it appears $81 is where oil needs to be before tar sand becomes profitable. It also is 31% more carbon loaded than normal crude. In addition it is very polluting both in extraction and processing. With all these negatives it is understandable.

propchef wrote:

bgum wrote:
I have never understood the need for the Keystone pipeline. Why not build a refinery near the source. Surely it would be less expensive and therefore reduce the price of fuel.

Building a refinery to process tar sands in the wilds of Canada close to the Arctic Circle would be wildly expensive. Besides, many petroleum companies are giving up their Canadian leases because extracting and refining tar sand crude no longer makes good fiscal sense and it's fraught with potential issues.

Well that doesn't explain how it is cheaper to build a pipeline and refine it in Texas. It is still facing the same issue in Texas refinery.
Now extraction up north may face potential issues.

bgum wrote:
I have never understood the need for the Keystone pipeline. Why not build a refinery near the source. Surely it would be less expensive and therefore reduce the price of fuel.

Building a refinery to process tar sands in the wilds of Canada close to the Arctic Circle would be wildly expensive. Besides, many petroleum companies are giving up their Canadian leases because extracting and refining tar sand crude no longer makes good fiscal sense and it's fraught with potential issues.

We bought our first RV in about 2010. It got about 11 mpg and gas was over $2.00 a gallon. We are retired now and the 4 daughters have graduated from college and moved on. We have the discretionary income to live as we want. We continue to live cheap so that we can still afford to travel where we want. Our current TT and F150 gets about 11 mpg.

I have never understood the need for the Keystone pipeline. Why not build a refinery near the source. Surely it would be less expensive and therefore reduce the price of fuel.

$4.37 usd for 1 us gallon where I am.

$5.25 usd for 1 us gallon Toronto.

$8.50 usd for 1 us gallon in Norway.

Any bidders higher than Norway?

NamMedevac 70 wrote:
Well all you JOs will $8.00 or 10.00 a gallon alter your plans. Not everyone is a moneyb

If I was driving a rig that got only about 6-7 miles per gallon it would probably have a negative impact to some extent.
Of course there is no indication that the price will reach 8-10 per gallon.
By careful planning we drive a rig that gets 16-17 mpg.
You have a point in that not everyone can afford extra costs. Those people are always with us and will be. Just maybe many in that group need to alter their priorities. Instead of a cell phone and direct TV or dish maybe more fuel to travel. Rather than a trip to the casino maybe more fuel. Instead of a case or two or a fifth or two possibly more fuel.
The point is in times like these altering priorities can get you through.

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