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Desert_Captain
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Aug 22, 2018

The lost art of PDI and test drives...

I've read several threads lately on this and other RV Forums where {usually} new owners are bemoaning various issues with their RV. Certain manufacturers get routinely trashed because the new rig wasn't what they ordered or had a host of obvious problems from day one. One complaineer was mad because they ordered all stainless steel appliances and did not get them. I understand being mad, frustrated, irritated etc you should be if you do not get exactly the rig you wanted. But why I have to ask, did they accept delivery of coach that clearly was not what they purchased?

The PDI is probably your most valuable tool in "preparing" to close the deal and go home a happy camper. Often we read a list of things that don't work properly {the bedroom TV, Microwave, generator, electrical outlets, water heater etc.} that, had they been tested during the PDI, the problems would have been disclosed before their hard earned money was handed over to the seller.

Every system in the rig should be run and tested for performance during the PDI. This can and probably should take hours. Video everything they show you which will be invaluable when you are trying to use these systems and to show the dealer/manufacturer should problems arise down the line.

Manufacturers warranties, often handled by the selling dealer have a long history of being problematic so why go there? If the rig is not right and the dealer cannot/will not make it right "Run Forrest Run!"

Others complain about the ride and handling, wind noise, rattles etc., the list is endless. This got me to wondering... doesn't anyone do a thorough test ride anymore? Why would anyone consider anything less than hour on a variety of roads a valid test drive? Did you get out on the Interstate where big rig trucks can pass to see what effect {if any} they have? Try merging onto a highway with a short on ramp? Try pulling into and out of a tight gas station, how does it handle the driveways, what are your sight lines like etc?

If a motorhome or any trailer for that matter, does not ride, handle or tow well on the test drive it will not get one bit better on its own. Folks then become obsessed with adding aftermarket, big buck accessories to "cure" these perceived problems. Often the solution is to simply weigh the rig, air up the tires to the proper PSI for the load they are expected to carry and perhaps throw in an alignment {which the dealer should pay for...but I digress}.

I think most manufactureres do a decent job but I have never heard of a coach, any coach, that came off the showroom floor perfect and ready to roll. There will ALWAYS be issues that need to be addressed.

Unfortunately for the first time buyers who come here to rant and complain no one was out there to impress upon them the importance of quality time spent during the PDI and the need for a thorough test drive. I've never had the thrill of buying new {always bought used but the same lessons still apply} it must be quite a rush as so many do it but to have that experience ruined due to issues with the rig must be maddening.

So what say you folks? How long was your PDI/Test drive? What issues did you discover and how helpful was the dealer/manufacturer in addressing them? What {if anything} would you do differently?

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  • NRALIFR wrote:
    Not every RV buyer is capable of doing a thorough PDI. In fact, I’d say the vast majority are not. If they were, the RV service departments wouldn’t be as flooded with business as they are.

    If you’re capable of doing a PDI that’s worth a damm, you’ll probably do the majority of the maintenance on the RV yourself too, rather than deal with the crappy service you’ll get at a dealer. That includes so-called warranty work. Unless it’s something really big and expensive as all get out, I’d rather fix it myself.

    The art that’s been lost is building a quality product from the start, so the buyer doesn’t have to do half the job that should rightfully belong to the manufacturers.

    :):)

    I agree some RV'ers are more capable than others. All RV'ers are capable of trying out every system and make sure it works. Don't find out the water heater won't light 2 weeks later, or the bedroom door will not latch or a drawer is off its glide.
    You don't need a lot of ability to check things out.
    You simply need to understand the importance of testing EVERYTHING before you buy!
  • My first TT, we spent a half hour. I was new and the trailer was simple. Got lucky, we had no major issues.

    Second TT, did better, but still disappointed in ourselves for letting the dealership throw us off our game a bit. Spent about 2 hours. Lucky again, no problems.

    Just sold the second one and are now in the market for a used Class 'A'. Will not buy without hours of running EVERY system, a lengthy test drive and a mechanic's (of my hiring) visit for the drive-train.

    After 100's of nights now in our TT's, I feel as qualified as anyone.
  • Not every RV buyer is capable of doing a thorough PDI. In fact, I’d say the vast majority are not. If they were, the RV service departments wouldn’t be as flooded with business as they are.

    If you’re capable of doing a PDI that’s worth a damm, you’ll probably do the majority of the maintenance on the RV yourself too, rather than deal with the crappy service you’ll get at a dealer. That includes so-called warranty work. Unless it’s something really big and expensive as all get out, I’d rather fix it myself.

    The art that’s been lost is building a quality product from the start, so the buyer doesn’t have to do half the job that should rightfully belong to the manufacturers.

    :):)
  • I would also make condition of the order contract that if any deposit is placed that it be refunded if PDI is not complete or to the satisfaction of the customer.

    From reading the horror stories of many experiences with dealers, I could envision a customer wanting to back out (if, for example, what was ordered is not what was delivered) and then the dealer wanting to hold the down payment.
  • ^^^ This ^^^ is the way to do it. Unfortunately, most new RVers just phone it in. "We're going to Yellowstone next week." Ummm, no, you're not.
  • When there are stars in your eyes, Captain, one doesn’t see or think clearly.
  • Travel Trailer:
    I (we) did our own PDI. Spent all day at the dealer. (took a break and went out to lunch). Took a note pad, flashlight, inspection camera.

    Insisted on power hook ups, and water hook up to test those systems.

    We went over it with a fine tooth comb. Got the feeling that they weren't happy with us but they left us alone.

    We gave them our punch list and left for the day. Came back and check all of those items....all of this before we signed.

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