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wa8yxm wrote:
Form a boycott and choose not to do business with either your choice of merchant or choose a day of the week and boycott them all.
Sounds like a solution.. I have have often wished for the kind of funds that would allow me to do something like that, but that is pie in the sky wishing as they say. What is needed is a legal version of the old west Necktie party for the Big Oil Executives (Hang them politically, not physically) but how to do that I have no clue other than talk talk talk till someone listens.
I know, "but we'll still buy the same amount of gas...". The effectiveness isn't about the demand being reduced but the interruption to the distribution at the filling stations. There will be lot of finger-pointing when the milk goes sour and filling station shelves are erratically stocked.
The boycott tactic was used successfully in Canada vs. BP.ChopperBill wrote:
Oil boom here. Every rental and motel full. House value went up $60,000 in the last year (means nothing unless you sell it) property taxes to follow.
However, cost to pack trailer wheel bearings went up to $350 from $250. Fuel injector replacement estimate went up $1000. Discount on annual diesel smog test went out the window. BEER went up! Grocery stores and restaurants prices are soaring. Health insurance on the rise.
But, my Social Security is going up a whopping 2%! Lower gas prices mean practically nothing.
Whoa! BEER went up? NOW we have to do something!!! ;-)wa8yxm wrote:
Sounds like a solution.. I have have often wished for the kind of funds that would allow me to do something like that, but that is pie in the sky wishing as they say. What is needed is a legal version of the old west Necktie party for the Big Oil Executives (Hang them politically, not physically) but how to do that I have no clue other than talk talk talk till someone listens.
So, after the oil executives, then what? Oil execs aren't the only ones making big money. Why not the grocery store execs? Or the phamacy execs? How about all those chain restaurant execs or lowes and Home Depot execs?- " This past summer the city government built a gasoline facility on property it owns and started underselling the gouging stations. The response has been big and popular with many compliments going to the mayor and city council for spearheading the plan. Gas prices have come way down in the interim and the mayor got re-elected last week."
Frankly, I'm surprised that is even legal. Now that the mayor has been reelected, I wonder how long it will last. - Oil boom here. Every rental and motel full. House value went up $60,000 in the last year (means nothing unless you sell it) property taxes to follow.
However, cost to pack trailer wheel bearings went up to $350 from $250. Fuel injector replacement estimate went up $1000. Discount on annual diesel smog test went out the window. BEER went up! Grocery stores and restaurants prices are soaring. Health insurance on the rise.
But, my Social Security is going up a whopping 2%! Lower gas prices mean practically nothing. paulcardoza wrote:
Not correct at all. Oil is traded on the world commodity market, which determines pricing. OPEC has influence, based on how they manage output, but their power to influence prices is now significantly compromised by the large increase in drilling/fracking in the rest of the world.NYCgrrl wrote:
The cost of crude is controlled by organisations like OPEC which the USA is not a member of. Now if one of the members decides to set it's own prices, drop production, etc. for internal reasons, it can and does.
I, on the other hand, think we are both correct and it's sort of like which came first: the chicken or the egg?;).
The commodity market gets it's cues from OPEC's meetings and reports.
Fracking has certainly helped to drop prices yet so has unexpected lower consumption in other parts of the world; somewhere out there people are crying in the futures market. And speaking of futures, let's not forget that there are internal problems in countries that produce, refine and supply oil, so while prices have dropped I wouldn't stake the farm on it continuing say 2 years from now.- Sounds like a solution.. I have have often wished for the kind of funds that would allow me to do something like that, but that is pie in the sky wishing as they say. What is needed is a legal version of the old west Necktie party for the Big Oil Executives (Hang them politically, not physically) but how to do that I have no clue other than talk talk talk till someone listens.
wa8yxm wrote:
noe-place wrote:
Here in our town the local stations are all controlled by a mysterious cabal that keeps every station in town at the same price.
When I started reading this reply I was thinking of Radio/Television/Newspaper which seems to have the same thing, They all have their "Topic of the week" it seems, All the above (And in the case of TV both National and local) cover the same "Scandal of the week" IE: Fast Food.. Every one of them, Talk shows (What is the formar Regis show called) GMA, Today, Local news, Local talk shows, Radio and newspaper.
However: when it comes to gas stations... Unless it is like a two station town that suggests illegal monolopy-ism you should perhaps send a letter or two to the Attorney General (State and US) and see if perhaps they can find the puppet masters.
People around here have sent letters to everyone from the AG to their rep in congress, met with the local fiscal court and city government many times to no avail; that is until recently. This past summer the city government built a gasoline facility on property it owns and started underselling the gouging stations. The response has been big and popular with many compliments going to the mayor and city council for spearheading the plan. Gas prices have come way down in the interim and the mayor got re-elected last week. The gougers even went to the state capital and tried to get an injunction passed against the new pumps saying the city was attempting to compete with "private" business. It went nowhere and prices continue to be much lower than before.- Isn't it time for the U S to draw back from oil profits in the world market and take care of the U S A? The U S supplied a 4000 mile fuel line for our WWII efforts and gasoline under rationing in the homeland was more affordable than now.
Why is it important or of interest for the consumer of oil products in the U S A to maintain obscene profits for oil companies?paulcardoza wrote:
Not correct at all. Oil is traded on the world commodity market, which determines pricing. OPEC has influence, based on how they manage output, but their power to influence prices is now significantly compromised by the large increase in drilling/fracking in the rest of the world.NYCgrrl wrote:
The cost of crude is controlled by organisations like OPEC which the USA is not a member of. Now if one of the members decides to set it's own prices, drop production, etc. for internal reasons, it can and does. bigred1cav wrote:
wilber1 wrote:
In New Zealand right now. 91 octane (the only grade available here) $2.00 NZD per liter. Diesel, $1.40 NZD per liter. I know it is early spring here but that is huge difference.
NZ would be $6 per gallon.
True but I was pointing out the huge difference between gasoline and diesel. In the other direction.
