valhalla360 wrote:
John & Angela wrote:
rk911 wrote:
my point was that it's not just the commute to/from work. it's all of the other things we do on the way to, from and sometimes during work breaks, lunch hours, etc. and then there are all of the things we do on days off that exceed the puny 20-mi range of a so called 'affordable EV'. no, an around-town EV is going to need a minimum range of 100-mi at full electrical load (lights, wipers, AC, radio, etc) and be affordable for the average Joe before it will be acceptable. govt can try and drive this down everyone's throat but innovation and the market place will determine when this will become a reality.
Good morning Rich. Rich I'm not an expert on EV's but I don't know of a single 20 mile EV. affordable or otherwise. Are you referrring to a concept vehicle maybe? I think with the exception of the mercedes smart electric drive which is around 70 miles or 110 km I think they are all over 100 miles of range now. I think most of the new 2018 models will be north of 150 miles of range. BMW i3, leaf, obviously the Tesla model 3 and bolt with more than 200. I may have mis understood your post.
I believe the 20 mile range was in reference to plug-in hybrids. For a large percentage of drivers 20 mile range can supply 70-95% of the miles under electric but seamless transition to gas power for longer trips.
The flaw with the Volt is by pushing for higher ranges, they had to incorporate more complicated and expensive systems. This drove up the cost to where it doesn't make economic sense. ($34k base price and it was much higher when it first came out).
By contrast the prius plug-in hybrid with only 25 mile range comes in at $27k base price but for most, they will burn a negligible amount of extra gas, especially when you consider in gas mode, the prius still gets 52mpg (vs 42mpg for the Volt).
Ah yes. I see what you are saying. I had to read back a few posts for context. . My bad. Thanks for clearing that up.
