Tiny Houses

pnichols wrote:

qtla9111 wrote:
Many types of tiny homes can be moved. I never said they were moved like an rv. They can be moved from place to place for longer stays.

Maybe to you they don't scream freedom but to many it does. Remember, the latest generation is more mobile and has less to no children. Smart people who want to break the paradigm of American dream lifestyle.

Why doesn't what you describe above apply to park model mobil homes ... which have been available for decades? :h

I guess because park models were not being bought by "Smart people who want to break the paradigm of American dream lifestyle". Instead they were bought by retirees and people who had succeeded to the point they wanted a second home somewhere.

qtla9111 wrote:
Many types of tiny homes can be moved. I never said they were moved like an rv. They can be moved from place to place for longer stays.

Maybe to you they don't scream freedom but to many it does. Remember, the latest generation is more mobile and has less to no children. Smart people who want to break the paradigm of American dream lifestyle.

Why doesn't what you describe above apply to park model mobil homes ... which have been available for decades? :h

bikendan wrote:
The Gen X and Millennials that are the main customers of these, are revolted at the thought of buying a RV.

Hmmm ... I wonder if it's primarily those Gex X'ers and Millenials who are revolted at the thought of buying an RV ... that practically run us RV'ers off the road as they pass us, and/or sometimes give us a horn blast as they pass us, and /or sometimes give us a certain kind of finger salute as they pass us?

austinjenna wrote:
I guess thats why the few episodes I have seen they seem to be out on some relatives property somewhere.

We watch the shows quite a bit.
What's interesting is that most of those that buy these things, always park them on someone else's land. They sponge off of someone else, rather than be independent.
The Gen X and Millennials that are the main customers of these, are revolted at the thought of buying a RV.

I ain't falling for it. They want to have you believe that nothing ever needs fixing. Where would I put my welder and drill press and work bench and tool boxes?....:B
I have concluded that a small house is 1,720 sq ft of air-conditioned space, and a couple of porches, PLUS 900 sq ft of garage. (40 ft MH and 20 ft bassboat optional).
"Everyone to their own poison", it works.

hose tiny homes aren't mobile, they aren't street legal, they just sit on a plot of land where they are unloaded. Nothing about them screams "freedom", they just scream "cramped".

And don't meet building codes in many instances. We were talking with our prospective builder about them and this is one issue that's never covered.

^ This I agree with!

Back in the day they weren't called tiny homes they were called summer cabins or hunting shacks. TV just dressed up the name.....

qtla9111 wrote:
Like everything else in the U.S, houses are super-sized.

Which kind of proves the American Dream is alive and well. I like the fact that in America it is possible (and actually quite likely) to have a home much larger than the average citizen of Central America. The America dream means most citizens can have a big screen TV, big powerful gas guzzling cars and trucks, and if they want, big honking RVs. Maybe that is why the US has always had an immigration issue, not a migration problem.

tinner12002 wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

qtla9111 wrote:
Actually, it is the minimalist movement that is very popular with Millennials. There will be more and more. People are downsizing and eliminating the cost and maintenance from their lives. Life's to short to be painting and cutting grass when you have more freedom to move around at intervals.

You may believe it is very popular, but the fact is there are not communities of these tiny homes as pop culture would have you believe. Yes, downsizing is becoming popular, but for most people that means 1500 square feet instead of 4000. Cramming yourself, your wife, your kids and your bull mastiff into 250 square feet just isn't going to be the next big thing. Those tiny homes aren't mobile, they aren't street legal, they just sit on a plot of land where they are unloaded. Nothing about them screams "freedom", they just scream "cramped".

What do you mean their not mobile or street legal...most are both, some are built on a mobile home frame which makes them a little expensive to move but a lot or most are built on trailers and are able to move down the road just as any other trailer.

They don't have axles,hitches and wheels like park models. Many are wider than the allowable width for towing without a pilot car. They are not built with weight being a primary consideration. They are not built with the consideration that they will be bouncing down the highway frequently, so many items must be additionally secured before they are moved. They are flat out not designed to be easily moved from location to location. If they are built to RVIA standards, have all the axles and hookups normal to a park model RV, then that is what they actually are. Calling them "tiny homes" doesn't change that. But park models are not what the TV shows are trumpeting. TV tiny homes are a breed apart and, in my opinion, a breed that really doesn't have a significant following.
Given enough time, motivation and money you can move any home. That doesn't make my 25,000 square foot mansion (or my dog house for that matter) mobile or street legal.
I know people want to believe reality TV is real, but it isn't. There are not scared, naked people who are trying to survive in the neighborhood swamp. People who flip houses don't always make $100,000 a pop and complete each project in 6 weeks. you don't always find a Van Gogh in each abandoned storage unit. And there aren't large numbers of people longing to leave their traditional homes to live in these so called tiny homes.

westernrvparkowner wrote:

qtla9111 wrote:
Actually, it is the minimalist movement that is very popular with Millennials. There will be more and more. People are downsizing and eliminating the cost and maintenance from their lives. Life's to short to be painting and cutting grass when you have more freedom to move around at intervals.

You may believe it is very popular, but the fact is there are not communities of these tiny homes as pop culture would have you believe. Yes, downsizing is becoming popular, but for most people that means 1500 square feet instead of 4000. Cramming yourself, your wife, your kids and your bull mastiff into 250 square feet just isn't going to be the next big thing. Those tiny homes aren't mobile, they aren't street legal, they just sit on a plot of land where they are unloaded. Nothing about them screams "freedom", they just scream "cramped".

What do you mean their not mobile or street legal...most are both, some are built on a mobile home frame which makes them a little expensive to move but a lot or most are built on trailers and are able to move down the road just as any other trailer.