TT depreciation per year according to kbb? Cargo trailers

Gdetrailer wrote:

JaxDad wrote:

pitch wrote:
Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake!

No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would.

Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board.


Rules are not laws!

Ever heard that old line? “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.”

That “cute little RVIA sticker” means jack, complying with the standards (required by law, not rules) it certifies that unit is in compliance is compulsory though.

Just because your factory built RV has never been questioned means what in regards to a homemade job? Zero.

Do YOU not realize that YOUR STUPID CANADIAN RULES DO NOT APPLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN CANADA.

Here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WE DO NOT NEED SPECIALIZED LICENSED PROPANE, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING contractor, engineers or licensing or any other governmental interventions when it comes to RVs or any other mobile installation.

The only thing that we do need to take into consideration is that our trailers must meet Federal and local outside lighting requirements and we follow good electrical and plumbing practices.

In a nutshell, as long as the outside of the trailer meets or exceeds DOT standards, what we modify inside is of no concern to ANY USA authorities.

So, unless the OP happens to be from Canada, they have ZERO issue with making their own RV from a Cargo trailer provided the trailer has a valid title and is roadworthy according to all State and Federal motor vehicle rules..

You’re a funny guy......

“Funny” in a sad, pathetic little angry man kind of way.

First off, where I live has zero to do with my citizenship, so you can stop the slandering before I tell you the whole story and really make you look even more foolish.

Secondly, life safety items are NOT just for S & B type places where people live, and YES they are LAWS, AMERICAN laws.

The part of the vehicle that is, well, a vehicle must conform to FDOT standards, but as soon as you install hard-wired 120 volt wiring, piped in propane, etc., etc., various ‘life safety’ standard, required by law, kick in.

As just one example, since you seem pretty slow to pick up on these simplest of things, in Texas for example, under the Transportation Code it’s illegal to tow a trailer on any public road if it has a built in propane system unless it meets NFPA 1192 standards and bears proof of same.

In California the Health and Safety Code - HSC Div 13, PART 2 , CHAPTER 4, Section 18027.3.

"h) It is unlawful for any person to do either of the following:
(2) Alter or convert, or cause to be altered or converted, any recreational vehicle in a manner that is inconsistent with ANSI Standard No. A119.2 or A119.5 or the NFPA 1192 Standard on Recreational Vehicles when the recreational vehicle is used, occupied, sold, or offered for sale within this state."

Grit dog wrote:
Sorry, didn’t pick up on you being the same guy procrastinating about unicorn cargo trailers.
Btw, isn’t what you’re looking for commonly called an inline? 7’ wide and wheels tucked under.

Although this has literally zero to do with the depreciation of a TT.
Other than, if you want to ensure quicker depreciation on a cargo trailer, one sure way is to market it as a homemade TT. No one wants someone else’s happy homeowner handyman project.

Yeah, me again.. Not procrastinating. Just timing this as I'm busy at the moment breaking ground on "the farm", and already spent 4 years RVing. Been there done that. Pretty soon I'll be retired tho.

Even then, I wont be in any hurry as I just like to keep busy. And I'm talking about buying, not selling. Who cares and that's the last thing on my mind. And when I'm finished, then I will head out.

For me half the fun is planning maintaining modifying and upgrading your rig to meet your needs. Not buying a stapled mdf nightmare on wheels.

JaxDad wrote:

pitch wrote:
Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake!

No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would.

Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board.


Rules are not laws!

Ever heard that old line? “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.”

That “cute little RVIA sticker” means jack, complying with the standards (required by law, not rules) it certifies that unit is in compliance is compulsory though.

Just because your factory built RV has never been questioned means what in regards to a homemade job? Zero.

Do YOU not realize that YOUR STUPID CANADIAN RULES DO NOT APPLY ANYWHERE OTHER THAN CANADA.

Here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WE DO NOT NEED SPECIALIZED LICENSED PROPANE, ELECTRICAL, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING contractor, engineers or licensing or any other governmental interventions when it comes to RVs or any other mobile installation.

The only thing that we do need to take into consideration is that our trailers must meet Federal and local outside lighting requirements and we follow good electrical and plumbing practices.

In a nutshell, as long as the outside of the trailer meets or exceeds DOT standards, what we modify inside is of no concern to ANY USA authorities.

So, unless the OP happens to be from Canada, they have ZERO issue with making their own RV from a Cargo trailer provided the trailer has a valid title and is roadworthy according to all State and Federal motor vehicle rules..

pitch wrote:
Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake!

No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would.

Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board.


Rules are not laws!

Ever heard that old line? “Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.”

That “cute little RVIA sticker” means jack, complying with the standards (required by law, not rules) it certifies that unit is in compliance is compulsory though.

Just because your factory built RV has never been questioned means what in regards to a homemade job? Zero.

Sorry, didn’t pick up on you being the same guy procrastinating about unicorn cargo trailers.
Btw, isn’t what you’re looking for commonly called an inline? 7’ wide and wheels tucked under.

Although this has literally zero to do with the depreciation of a TT.
Other than, if you want to ensure quicker depreciation on a cargo trailer, one sure way is to market it as a homemade TT. No one wants someone else’s happy homeowner handyman project.

Thanks everyone.

Grit dog wrote:

RVs depreciate like mad. Cargo (and other) trailers don’t.

For new trailers in your neck of the woods, King Company in Wausau WI was the best price/value IMO.

To compare how much value they retain, I used it for 1 trip back to WA and sold it for considerably more than I paid new.

Hi Grit dog.. You mentioned King Company a while ago and I contacted them, but they wont build me the "narrow track" I want.. 7' wide and no outside fenders.. Jensen trailers north of des moines Ia will build me one for almost 10k

colliehauler wrote:
I found a new 6x12 cargo trailer in Georgia .

I looked on Craigslist and Ebay for the best price.

I cant figure out why cargo trailers are cheapest in Georgia. But Ive shut some people up by showing them what a new trailer the same size as their old used one costs there..

pitch wrote:
Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake!

No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would.

Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board.

Now if he has a fire or something that is on him. Probably would be no insurance company.

What I would like to know is why some are so focused on the letter of the rule. Rules are not laws!

Amen, and I don't camp in camp grounds.

Why would he need an engineering firm to do anything? If he has a modicum of skill he can do it himself. These things are not space shuttles for God's sake!

No he wouldn't have that cute little RVIA sticker that adds 3 or 4 hundred to the price of a camper,but I am sure that he will build better quality than any manufacturer would.

Oh the bit that some campgrounds have about it being RVIA approved? So what. Most campground prohibit weapons and alcohol also.If I followed the "RULE" I would never leave home. Never once has the kid in the office inspected or even asked about the camper and what I have on board.

Now if he has a fire or something that is on him. Probably would be no insurance company.

What I would like to know is why some are so focused on the letter of the rule. Rules are not laws!

rerod wrote:
I'm trying to establish some guide lines for myself when making offers on enclosed trailers. I want to convert one into a Toyhauler.

Thanks

Before you get too far down that “conversion” road, you need to make a few decisions about how you’re going to use it and where.

If you plan on building in things like propane stove, burners, or hot water heater or wired in 120 volt systems you need to plan on only boondocking or budget some money on a specialty engineering firm to certify it for you, or a licensed specialty conversion shop to do it for you.

Yup, your comparison is not valid.
RVs depreciate like mad. Cargo (and other) trailers don’t.
Think they’re expensive in Iowa, look out here where it rains all the time.....
For new trailers in your neck of the woods, King Company in Wausau WI was the best price/value IMO. Bought a cargo trailer there a couple years ago.
To compare how much value they retain, I used it for 1 trip back to WA and sold it for considerably more than I paid new.

The OP is going to need more than a basic box. It will also take some length to accommodate toys, and still have living space. Suspension is a big item, for toy loading/unloading, lower is better. My 7x23 has Dexter rubber ride torsion suspension for low ramp height, and smooth ride. It has 2 side vents, and a RV type roof vent. The trailer place I purchased from has a new demo (slight use) just like mine, on special for $13,990.


Here is a pic of mine, still like new, just a bit dirty, while in use.

Jerry