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Ron_Gratz
Jan 30, 2014Explorer
xcntrk wrote:Thanks for the link to the source of the weight values which you entered into your spreadsheet. Posts #1 and #5 clear up the mystery about the steer and drive axle load changes.Ron Gratz wrote:Those are real CAT scale weights captured from another user here (empty TV, loaded TT w/no WD, and loaded TT w/WD) each individually measured.
Your example shows, for no WD,
the steer axle lost 3200-3040 = 160# and
the drive axle gained 3880-2840 = 1040#.
With no WD, I would expect the steer axle to lose an amount equal to about 40-50% of the 880# TW and the drive to gain about 140-150% -- depending on TV wheelbase and ball overhang.
How did you calculate the front axle loss and the rear axle gain?
Post #1 says the tongue weight as measured by Sherline is ~650# (rather than 880#).
Post #5 says that the front & rear unhitched loads of 3200 & 2840 were from a previous weighing which did not include dogs and kennels.
Unhitched individual axle loads were not measured during the later weighing, but the TV GVW was 6270# instead of 6040#.
Assuming TW = 650#, wheelbase = 157", and ball overhang = 61" would cause approximately 250# removed from the steer axle and 900# added to the drive axle.
This indicates the unhitched steer axle load should be around 3040+250 = 3290#
and the unhitched drive axle load should be around 3880-900 = 2980#,
adding up to the reported GVW of 6270#.
With WD applied, the steer axle would have lost 10# relative to unhitched while the drive axle gained 540#.
The front axle load restoration was close to 100%.
xcntrk wrote:If you used 104# -- that value should have been 140#. And, the TW should have been 650# rather than 880#.
With this user's numbers and WD enabled, 240# came off the rear axle and went back to the front axle, and 140# came off the rear axle and went back to the TT axles, for a total of 360# total distributed due to the WD hitch. Percentage wise you could say 41% of the TW was redistributed by the WD hitch (including both TV and TT weight changes), but I don't call that percentile out in my spreadsheet because a large portion of it still remains on the TV (just moved from rear to front). This is where the 14% comes from; the 104# that went back to the TT axles or 14% of the original TW.
This would mean the transfer to the TT's axles was approximately 140/650 = 22% of TW.
Ron
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