Bird Freak wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
Bird Freak wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
Wow, SO much misinformation here!!
The RVIA certification label is in most jurisdictions a legal requirement under life safety regulations.
Are you going to get arrested for removing it? Not likely. But if something ever happened, God forbid, you might regret removing it.
In some jurisdictions it's actually illegal to rent or sell an RV without that certification label.
can you please back this up with some kind of real documentation.
No problem, just as an example because I had it bookmarked after a long contentious thread last year, see page 2 of the info from the Province of Manitoba below.
Manitoba Fire Safety Brochure
The certification labels BTW show that the vehicle complies with NFPA 1192 standards for things like heating, cooking and electrical systems. The RVIA act as an industry auditing and enforcement body, they can revoke a manufacturers ability to certify units if the don't comply with the standards.
In an (obviously stationary) S & B all that is covered by the building permit inspections. In a highly portable RV there would be no easy way to do that.
As we are talking about someone in the USA im not sure your Manitoba info applys here. I still saw nothing about being illegal to sell a used coach with out sticker. Just saying a lot of your laws there do not apply here.:)
The problem most people have trying to research this issue, the same with importing RV's from the US to Canada, is that an RV is a strange case, it's part vehicle, but also part residential, if only temporarily. That means that BOTH vehicle AND life safety regulations apply to them equally.
The two 'clearing houses' for those standards is NFPA and ANSI.
RVIA (and a handful of smaller independent quality control certifying groups like QAI) provide certification, in this case in the form of an RVIA seal showing the vehicle complies with those minimum standards.
Just as an example, below is a link to a brochure from the State of Idaho's Division of Building Safety.
Idaho Life Safety Reg's Brochure. In it the preamble states "All structures built for use as a dwelling place, including “tiny houses”, must fall into one of the following classifications and are required to comply with the requirements for that classification."
Then further on, in the case of RV's it says "Recreational Vehicles - The Idaho Transportation Department regulates RVs as vehicles for title and licensing purposes through your county vehicle licensing agency. Their width is limited to 81?2 feet and temporary recreational lodging is the only legal use. The placement and occupancy of RVs is regulated by local planning and zoning ordinances.
RVs must comply with American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Standard A119.2 for Recreational Vehicles or ANSI A119.5 Standards for Park Trailers (IC§39-4202). The Recreational Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA) issues an insignia for compliant RVs and Park Trailers."
Recreational Vehicles - The Idaho Transportation Department regulates RVs as vehicles for title and licensing purposes through your county vehicle licensing agency. Their width is limited to 81?2 feet and temporary recreational lodging is the only legal use. The placement and occupancy of RVs is regulated by local planning and zoning ordinances.
RVs must comply with American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Standard A119.2 for Recreational Vehicles or ANSI A119.5 Standards for Park Trailers (IC§39-4202). The Recreational Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA) issues an insignia for compliant RVs and Park Trailers."
Just like with electrical safety and the NEC and the building code, life safety standards under the various State and Provincial regulations all refer back national standards. You can find similar requirements in each jurisdiction.
