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BenK
Jul 05, 2013Explorer
BenK wrote:
Below is my diagram showing how the specifications/limits/ratings system works
Best to weigh your setup axle by axle fully loaded ready to go. If you don't
have one or the other, then use their GVWR's as the potential max...if you load
everything like most do...few are truly light in the stuff they load
Also, decide if you believe in the ratings or not.
If not, then do whatever but a new 2013, assume still under warranty. so know
that if they find out over loaded, warranty might be denied (I would if I was
the OEM)
If yes, then check out the below diagram, gather the specifications for 'your'
TV and plug in the actual weights to do the simple math.
You have found out that it is not all about go, but the ratings are the true
measure. You will get tons of 'sure you can', etc, etc advice, but there is only
one person responsible for the setup and that is the driver, who might not be
the OP, but a buddy or spouse. Then the OP should ask themselves if the advisers
would pay for any overload break down?
I do not advise with the 'your are good for it', 'sure you can', 'no you can not'
but provide the metrics for the OP's to figure it out themselves...I have to
sleep at nite as I take providing advice seriously...
This is NOT a half ton can't tow anything...everything can tow
and then they also have specifications/limits/ratings on what they
are 'rated' to tow.
Just that half tons have lower ratings and head room than bigger trucks
Then note that there is a huge spread on 'half tons'. From less than
6.2K GVWR to over 8.1K GVWR (I call them fake half tons). So many
get bit by hearing/reading of a 'half ton' doing whatever but miss
or the poster didn't say they have one of those fake half tons. I've
gotten several PMs about that and one guy so mad he wanted to sue the
guy telling everyone a half ton can, but he had one of those fake
half tons...so this guy who PM'd me burned up his diff towing what
he though all half ton's can because one guy said he does and advise
that guy he too could...
another thread titled: New guy needs helpBenK wrote:
Welcome to the forum !
First decide if you believe in the OEM specifications/limits/ratings or not
If not, then do whatever but note that if there is warranty left...the
OEM may be denied. If no warranty, then you have taken the OEM off the
liability hook
If yes, then read up and ask lots of questions
There is a huge difference in how a question is asked or answered
'Can do' is way different from 'should do' or 'rated for'
The specifications, limits and ratings is a 'system' and most take
a single rating as an absolute or out of context....like your reference
to your TV's MTWR (Max Tow Weight Rating)
Meaning that, those MTWR's are only a true rating within the fine
print of the OEM's specifications
Meaning that they derived those MTWR's from a 'curb' weight TV, which
is the 'stripper' model with no options other than the tow option
and one 150lb driver. Some full fluids, others partially filled
Best is to weigh your TV's fully loaded...axle by axle. That is the
only way to figure out your 'true' MTWR
You should gather these ratings for both your TV's
GVWR
FGAWR
RGAWR
GCWR
Then do the simple math to figure out your true MTWR
Some come here looking for confirmation of what they want to hear
or what they have already decided on....they WILL get many advisers
that will do exactly that...just ask yourself if those advisers will
provide the funds for warranty or whatever cost an overloaded TV
might suffer
This image shows how the ratings system looks like in graphical form
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