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poppin_fresh
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Jun 05, 2015

Why GM? Why?!!!

I went to move my brake controller from my 2012 Chevrolet Traverse to my new Silverado for our first trip tomorrow. I figured it would be a simple matter of unplug, mount and replug.

Nope! The plug on the harness is completely different! Had to cut the wires and re-splice into the harness that came with the truck.

Granted it wasn't hard to do, but I was only mentally prepared for half that much work. :)
  • Because they can and their customers will continue to purchase new models...

    But...over on the commercial/industrial side...they keep their revisions
    backwardly compatible as much as possible...because those customers typically
    will NOT purchase again...or delay purchase until there is a significant
    benefit

    Mainly because commercial/industrial keep their equipment for decades or
    longer. So spare parts and replacement part interchangeability a critical
    decision point

    The philosophy of Corporate parts bin and compatibility is getting lost
    with the new designers & their management.

    They even used to include the pig-tail harness. but no more

    The whole vehicle harness still (that I know of) has the tow/trailer
    wires 'n there' and am expecting the OEMs to remove that as a cost
    savings thing all too soon...as the percentage towing is very, very
    small...and...the OEMs can then make money from those who then purchase
    the tow harness(s)

    Can also see the 7 pin connector change with more connections. That
    will be when there is a complimentary computer/sensors/etc on the
    trailer. Mainly a strain gauge for the computer to know if over loaded
    or not...
  • mleekamp wrote:
    BurbMan wrote:
    They have done worse....in 2002, they changed the pin layout within the connector. So, a 2001 pigtail will plug right in because teh connector is the same shape, but nothing will work because the connections have been rearranged.


    I had this happen...our 01 Chevy was wrecked, got a new 02, and plugged right in. Problem was, NO TRAILER BRAKES!!!! Had to pay $60 at a dealer for the new harness. I still curse that.


    If it was the same plug why couldn't they or you just change the pin locations.
  • There was one change made that if you used the prior model harness, if you turned the headlights on it applied the brakes. They had reversed 2 pins for whatever reason. There is a bunch of Latin about all this, but I'd be preaching to the choir.
  • ScottG wrote:


    While we're at it, why do Ford and Dodge think I want the headlights to come on just because I open the door? How many customers wanted that?



    Sell that 03 and get a new Ram Scott... you can turn those headlights off in the settings. :B
  • DirtyOil wrote:
    ScottG wrote:


    While we're at it, why do Ford and Dodge think I want the headlights to come on just because I open the door? How many customers wanted that?



    Sell that 03 and get a new Ram Scott... you can turn those headlights off in the settings. :B


    My "old 03 doesn't do it but I noticed the new ones do. So that's it, I'm never selling my 03 ;)
  • BurbMan wrote:
    They have done worse....in 2002, they changed the pin layout within the connector. So, a 2001 pigtail will plug right in because teh connector is the same shape, but nothing will work because the connections have been rearranged.


    I remember that debacle!!

    I think they eventually changed the pigtail connector color to easily distinguish which pigtail was meant for which year truck.
  • mleekamp wrote:
    BurbMan wrote:
    They have done worse....in 2002, they changed the pin layout within the connector. So, a 2001 pigtail will plug right in because teh connector is the same shape, but nothing will work because the connections have been rearranged.


    I had this happen...our 01 Chevy was wrecked, got a new 02, and plugged right in. Problem was, NO TRAILER BRAKES!!!! Had to pay $60 at a dealer for the new harness. I still curse that.


    Same thing going from our 02 Avalanche to our 00 Yukon XL 2500. Everything worked except the trailer brake signal. $12 on Amazon for a new harness from Tekonsha, but it was a pain to use the manual slider for brakes on every stop on that first trip.

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