Gdetrailer wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
BillyBob Jim wrote:
the bear II wrote:
That would work for most boondocking areas but most RV, National and state parks require RVs to meet RVIA standards which include holding tanks. You'll see park rules state "Must be fully self contained"
Recreation Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA)
Those blue portable tanks can be a hand full to dump depending on where you have to dump them. The smell can be deadly.
Holding tanks with a sealed sewer hose setup is the best way to go. Little or no smell or mess.
That's simply opinion. I have never seen in the published rules for any State or Federal Campground I am familiar with, which is more than a few, anything that references RVIA standards or the RVIA at all. The RVIA is a voluntary organization, there are RV manufacturers that do not even belong to RVIA. Are tent campers required to be self contained also.
OP, I have used and dumped a tote tank often. It's not the nightmare folks claim on these boards. Get a 4 wheel tote with a side mounted dump valve. You would not need separate totes for black and gray to do what you describe, you'll be dumping it down the same hole. No one is going to give you any flack or toss you from a campground for having a tote tank connected 24/7.
RVIA is merely the oversight body, the actual rules that must be adhered to are NFPA or ANSI standards. A quick look at any RVIA oval seal will show that it says that the seal is confirming the RV was built in compliance with NFPA XXX or some such standard.
RVIA certification is NOT mandatory, conforming to the standards IS mandatory.
As for campground rules, not seeing them, or they being enforced by unknowing (or uncaring) employees, does not mean they do not exist. Below is just one example of the many I’ve seen, at a park I frequent myself. A friend who did a similar rig, a converted cargo trailer, finally sold it because he was being refused a site so often.
Click here and see Rule # 24.4 in the middle of page 11.
It’s not just sewage either, fresh water plumbing, built in 120 volt wiring and / or propane appliances other than portables require certification to be legal also.
In lots of jurisdictions it’s also illegal to sell such a homemade rig unless it’s certified.
Jax,
You ARE forgetting that not "everyone" on this forum lives in CANADA.
Here in the USA we DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW CANADA'S RULES.
CANADA'S RULES DO NOT APPLY IN THE USA.
THERE IS ZERO RULES COVERING HOMEMADE CAMPERS PERIOD IN THE USA OTHER THAN FOLLOWING GOOD ELECTRICAL PRACTICE SET OUT BY THE NEC IF YOU WANT TO PLUG YOUR HOMEMADE RV INTO THE ELECTRIC GRID.
For the USA the ONLY thing that does need to be taken into consideration is the DOT requirements for outside lighting and braking/tires safety items..
What is done inside doesn't matter.
That's it.
We ARE FREE to build our own RVs any way we want provided it meets ALL DOT specifications for ROAD WORTHINESS.
myredracer wrote:
Gdetrailer wrote:
Jax does not get it, understand it and most likely will never understand it that Canadian rules that they are under do not apply once you cross the line from Canada to USA.
Jax has a continual and deliberate habit of trying scare people into not doing something because they are not "Approved" by some overbearing Gov agency in Canada.
I seriously doubt that 99% of the population in Canada follow all of those rules which Jax is so happy to point out to USA folks.. There is lots of primitive shacks in Canada which would not pass the muster for any rules..
WOW!! I HAVE TO SAY THAT THOSE MUST BE THE MOST IGNORANT AND OFFENSIVE COMMENTS I'VE EVER READ ON THIS FORUM. (Caps for emphasis, not shouting.)
How overbearing...
Don’t worry about their behaviour, it’s a recurring theme indeed, make stupid inflammatory comments, but then ignore the posted facts, rinse & repeat.
mom, he’s at it again. Clicky, clicky. Then scroll down a couple of posts.
There’s lots more examples if anyone is interested.
