Workcampers needed

I stopped reading --- just want to know 1st of all (this is my first visit to this forum)... workkamping opportunities.

My husband and I are looking for spring/summer 2014 -- I THOUGHT one was listed here... -- wondering what/where???

We are currently on the west coast.

Sounds like this is a case where the whole RV community would be better served if the whole thread was deleted.

Ken

I notice that royl admitted to falsifying the glowing initial reports as they were forced to post what they did.

If someone admits falsification then everything they post is very suspect and should not be believed whether good or bad.

texasclarks wrote:

And I noticed that he deleted all those posts as well...:h

Not quite, thanks to Bigdoggers having quoted one there that really says it all about what this guy was tellin' folks. I'm going to paste it in here as quoted from that thread, along with the CG's response. What better way for folks to judge both for themselves than to see them side by side?

Here's RoyL's complaint:

RoyL wrote:
royl wrote:

I don't mind being questioned but I will not tolerate being called a liar. We were instructed if we wanted to continue filling the assistant manager position that we post the ad exactly the way they wanted it worded. We complied as we were management at the time.

Things at the park didn't change, they were always there but we didn't see the light until we found out we were being lied to and stabbed in the back, we found out that the other workampers were instructed not to talk to us or socialize with us or they would be told to leave, we assumed the story we were being told was true, that the other workampers were going to be replaced because they didn't work well with us.

It was a lot that happened in a very short period of time and everything snowballed so quickly from them not being able to say enough good things about us to us being told we had to leave in 24 hours. Believe me it was a shock to us and my wife still breaks down in tears when she talks about it. The lady manager was acting like her best friend, sharing clothes so she could go out places, going out to eat and so on. My wife was floored when all this happened.

We were warned about their insecurities about losing their jobs earlier but the person who told us was being forced to leave so we assumed it was just their anger talking. Like I said before after all this happened and we compared notes with the hosts that left three days after us and with another couple who left a few months ago, and are in another local park, we found out the truth about what goes on at that park. I know it seems crazy, and it was, so I can see how others not experiencing it can think we are nuts. As far as the other, we had about 12 permanent and semi permanent residents there at the park so we were never full.

It is not a destination park, simply a overnight stop for most visitors to get off the interstate. There are a lot of railroad workers and other laborers working in the area and a big number of them are Hispanic or have their families with them, we were not allowed to register any long term residents with children or if they were Hispanic, we had to take their information and give it to the manager, we also were instructed that no matter how many open spots we had we were to place anyone with children or Hispanics in the far corner spots next to the interstate so they would not be a problem. No way were we to allow them to register for more than one day, so you tell me what you think. We simply wanted to be trained as assistant managers for future use on our resume, not actually have any say in running the park and had we known the truth and put all the red flags together we would have been gone when our three months were over.

Like I said before your whole outlook on the people and the park can and does change in an instant when you learn the truth and some people do a very good job at hiding their true selves with lies and their actions until the truth comes out you confront them face to face as we did. Oh yes and also can you explain four host couples being forced out with a 24 hour notice within the four months we were there including us? Was that us having a problem or insane management? Sometimes it just takes a while to realize the truth.

And here's the CG's defense (now buried in a thread that was allowed to stay open for exactly 21 minutes!)

TNbackwoodswoman wrote:

Posted: 05/20/14 08:02am Link | Print | Notify Moderator
Hi everyone, This is my one and only post in response to earlier posts made by "royl".

I am the Tennessee Backwoods Woman that was mentioned in earlier posts by "royl". The posts by "royl" was so full of untruths and contradictions, I was shocked at the cruel & malicious content that spewed forth from his mind. With his mindset, we are relieved he is no longer a work camper in our park. Just to further clarify, "royl" and his wife were never placed as Asst. Managers at our park and never even considered for that position. This was something he wanted, not what we needed. We are a small park, and as one of you responded to him, why would a small park need an Asst. Manager along with several sets of work campers.

Disgruntled ex-work camper aside, the racial statements made by "royl" went way beyond proper etiquette and moral ethics. I do not care what someone may say about me, I am proud to be a Tennessee woman, but to slam another person, be it a family member or anyone else, because they can't read and write? Does that make him feel superior to the millions of people across the USA who can't read and write for whatever reason. Does he think he is a better person than they are? Your level of education does not make you the person you are. This country was founded, worked & fought for by millions who could not read & write.

As to us being "insecure" in our position here at Kiva RV Park & Horse Motel, that couldn't be further from the truth. We are very secure in our position as Managers of the park and plan on being here for many years to come according to the owners. Kiva RV Park & Horse Motel operates well with our relaxed & flexible working atmosphere, we don't need or want the strict rules & regulations and the severe structured work atmosphere needed and used by larger parks, or state & federal facilities. We want a relaxed atmosphere for our work campers & residents to enjoy their stay here, to make them feel welcome and want to come back. If being relaxed and flexible in the operation of the park does this, then so be it.

So, whether or not you believe "royl", please stop in here at Kiva RV Park & Horse Motel and find out for yourself that we have always and will continue to treat our customers, no matter their race or nationality, with the respect and service they deserve.

bigdogger wrote:

Francesca Knowles wrote:
:h

Just posting to register my very loud protest to the fact that the O.P of this thread has rendered it incomprehensible by having deleted every single one of his posts including the threadstarter outlining the opportunity he initially described.

The action was clearly taken as part of the diatribe that he subsequently posted against this same Park, which thread contains a link to this one. That thread has since been closed by the Moderator perhaps due to the O.P.'s increasingly outrageous accusations against the very park he himself described here so glowingly just a few weeks ago.

I'd advise interested parties to draw their own conclusions about the Park based on observations other than those expressed by this O.P either here or in his "disgruntled employee" thread, found at this link.

LATE EDIT:

Looks like the Park in question got wind of the kerfuffle and has had a chance to respond...just stumbled over this thread. Check it out and draw your own conclusions!

Thanks for the link. Apparently, it was OK for the thread accusing the park management of being racist and crazy to run for several days, but when the park responds, in a very polite and reserved manner, that thread is allowed to run for only a few minutes.

And I noticed that he deleted all those posts as well...:h

Something just isn't right...not sure if it is the park, the former & disgruntled work camper, or the idea that they were not proud of what was posted...either way I am sure this one will soon get closed as well!

Francesca Knowles wrote:
:h

Just posting to register my very loud protest to the fact that the O.P of this thread has rendered it incomprehensible by having deleted every single one of his posts including the threadstarter outlining the opportunity he initially described.

The action was clearly taken as part of the diatribe that he subsequently posted against this same Park, which thread contains a link to this one. That thread has since been closed by the Moderator perhaps due to the O.P.'s increasingly outrageous accusations against the very park he himself described here so glowingly just a few weeks ago.

I'd advise interested parties to draw their own conclusions about the Park based on observations other than those expressed by this O.P either here or in his "disgruntled employee" thread, found at this link.

LATE EDIT:

Looks like the Park in question got wind of the kerfuffle and has had a chance to respond...just stumbled over this thread. Check it out and draw your own conclusions!

Thanks for the link. Apparently, it was OK for the thread accusing the park management of being racist and crazy to run for several days, but when the park responds, in a very polite and reserved manner, that thread is allowed to run for only a few minutes.

:h

Just posting to register my very loud protest to the fact that the O.P of this thread has rendered it incomprehensible by having deleted every single one of his posts including the threadstarter outlining the opportunity he initially described.

The action was clearly taken as part of the diatribe that he subsequently posted against this same Park, which thread contains a link to this one. That thread has since been closed by the Moderator perhaps due to the O.P.'s increasingly outrageous accusations against the very park he himself described here so glowingly just a few weeks ago.

I'd advise interested parties to draw their own conclusions about the Park based on observations other than those expressed by this O.P either here or in his "disgruntled employee" thread, found at this link.

LATE EDIT:

Looks like the Park in question got wind of the kerfuffle and has had a chance to respond...just stumbled over this thread. Check it out and draw your own conclusions!

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This sounds like a wonderful opportunity. We are unable to help you this year but would be very interested next March and possibly April.

We've stayed there a couple times. Royl is representing the park just as it is. Very friendly, laid back and relaxed. I would think this is a good place to workcamp.

B.O.