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- westendExplorer
GDE wrote:
Not ALL golf cart dealers wish to deal with folks off the street and they are more than happy to beat you up if you are dumb enough to buy from them.
This is accurate. Fortunately, with a smart phone, one can compare pricing and make a few calls to get a good deal. Springtime is battery activity season for larger GC2 users.
FWIW, I've maintained fleets of 6V batteries, 360 count of Trojan T105's, exactly. They are worth the price if you are a heavy-schedule battery user and can be had from Golf Cart service shops for not that much more than the Costco/Sams versions. Pick a large distributor.
Having said that, operating from a stretched budget, I chose to buy the Duracells from Sams. $190 out the door with no core surrender, tax included, for a pair. They are in year 6 with temp-compensating solar charging, daily. I don't test them for capacity (other than a hydrometer dip every year) because they are going to last a long time. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerwere you 24/7 throughout the summer?
- mcheroExplorer15 years ago I purchased 4 Sams Club 6 volts. Proper cabling, and a quality converter, i purchased 60amp progressive dynamics w/charge wizard. Proper care and feeding those batteries lasted me 12 years!
I was living in NH at the time. 1st 8 years no hookups thru the winter. would FULLY charge and hit the disconnect in the fall. Oh, and faithfully kept them above 12 volts. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerred31 in your case you pencil it out to make the cheapo the way to go. But if you have a large solar array, don't live in an area where full sun on the roof raises temperatures to 125F, live next to a gas station in northern Venezuela, then you're all set. What's the percentage of RV'ers in that particular position? Chinese pay insane prices for the gall bladder of endangered animals.
When batteries go bad it destroys vacations for most people. If you vacation on Long Island or the Poconos, it's a lot easier to chew than bad batteries in the Big Bend area of Texas or in Yellowstone Park, or Yosemite. I do not consider the East Coast suburban areas as off grid boondocking.
So your formula is as skewed as taking a hamburger to a Vegan Quiche contest. - red31ExplorerToo many bogus points FOR ME
looks like 2.5 yrs for cheap o is break even, $90 is a fraction of the diff
30 gallons gets me 2200 miles and the 30 trips to the fuel 200 yrds = 3 miles total over say 9 months.
No gen charging allowed, up abs time for CEF.
nothing to do with the price of tea in china.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1555518/Tea-in-China-costs-six-times-as-much-as-gold.html - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerQuadruple redundancies are not picturesque.
Pair of golf car batteries that cost $90 more. How many gallons of gasoline can you buy with ninety dollars? Not that much. How far would you have to drive to refuel?
The Charge Efficiency Factor is important when serious boondocking is involved and not at all important when a chew & spit battery is used for weekend warrior duty.
Take my Kubota for instance. Think I want to run it for five hours recovering batteries to full 1.260 when three hours would do it?
I have fought US Battery GC220 batteries and US Battery L-16 batteries until I was totally exasperated. They resist charging, sulfate faster and die sooner than a Trojan or Rolls. Now what is that worth?
Many of you have experience with your own batteries whereas for decades I might see four or five different banks in one day. "I don't have that kind of money" was just as true in 1980 as it is today. They HAD that kind of money, but they refused to spend it on batteries.
If you do NOT have problems with off-brand warehouse batteries GREAT! If you do have problems with off brand warehouse batteries don't feel alone.
But PLEASE avoid telling everyone that Costco, Sams and other lesser batteries "Are The Way To Go". That statement is a lot different than stating "Cheapos are the way to go FOR ME".
It gets discouraging when off-grid batteries trash their electrolyte cell equality after 10 days and the batteries are four months old. A weekend warrior will seldom encounter problems. Off grid camping brings out the Mr. Hyde in cheap batteries.
As Mark Daugherty president of Ramcar battery used to tell me about his GC220's "Not everyone needs the superior characteristics of the Trojan" He was and is absolutely correct.
I could have purchased cheap-o batteries, trucked them to Long Beach, shipped them to the Port of Lazaro Cardenas, then jumped through hoops getting them 28 miles north up the side of a hill. Or ferried a Chinese AGM battery 1445 miles below the border. But one thing stopped me -- common sense.
Cheap-o golf car batteries are perfect for SOME people. But they can be disaster incarnate for the majority. When I set up off-grid homes the average life span of the Trojan T-105 varied between EIGHT to TEN years. Off-grid, no public power, ever.
Do you boondock even 30 days a year? Do your cheap-o golf-cars last eight to ten years?
Cheap-o golf car batteries weigh the same as a Trojan. Now what could possibly make them THAT much cheaper? Hmmmmmm? Power windows? Leather seats? - shum02ExplorerBTW you can use your Canadian Costco membership in the US and vice versa.
- red31ExplorerI might drive the extra 30 mile round trip to pay double for batteries that where 3 times better than the ones close by at 1/2 the price.
- MEXICOWANDERERExplorerNope. Nurse Ratchett would have snagged all the keys. I went by Costco last Friday. Had to stare. Gasoline was xxx sixteen cents less than the majors up and down the street. Most were little sedans. Twelve gallons? An hour in line? Lined up all the way to the boulevard and then some. Speaks volumes... Or my Favorite...Harrah's Casino. People stuck in a hour maybe 2 hour line for Thanksgiving so they could save eight bucks on a Turkey dinner. I and my mother ate with silver on linen. "They" ate in a roaring chow hall. SEVEN OUT YOUR FORTY DOLLAR STACK --- AWAY.
- PuddlesExplorer
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
True value is only established when you divide the number of kWh conducted into the retail price at time of battery failure. In effect "who declares length and number of vacations and full 50% DOD discharges?" And yet there is a further part. The CEF. Charge efficiency factor. The amount of energy (gasoline) needed to recharge a depleted battery.
Many people have a distorted sense of economy -- like driving all the way across town to save ten cents per gallon of gasoline.
Money is money and auditing the true value of a battery purchase is fraught with peril if only one of the components is shown (distortion).
Again I will state this: WHY OH WHY DO MOST GOLF COURSES INSIST ON TROJAN BATTERIES?
Are they spendthrift? Are they stupid? Do they get a fantastic discount that makes their T105 purchases cheaper than running down to a club warehouse? Does Trojan bribe them with free batteries for their personal cars?
May I suggest a reality check and a harder search than just calling one vendor?
Hey... have a slightly diff. view on your sense of economy... if everyone was prepared to drive across town, a ten cent price variation would not exist.
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