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Naio
Explorer II
Mar 26, 2017

AGM batteries and engine heat? Or heat tape?

So I have these 135aH Fiamm's for my new van build., and I am thinking about how to keep them warm.

I was planning to mount them under the high-clearance van, alongside the frame, for ballast and to get them out of the way.

But I am worried that when they get cold it will be hard to warm them up enough to get good juice out of them. I have this problem even with my little ice machine batteries.

1. When I got to a place with 110, how long would it take to warm a big battery with heat cable? Or is there a better method? It's been too long since I had physics and chemistry.

2. Would it harm the batteries to place them where they will get engine heat, e.g. near the exhaust system? What if I drive (heaven forbid) 12 hours in summertime? 8 hours happens a few times a year.

Thanks much for any insights!

16 Replies

  • If the four batteries are sandwiched right you should only need 1 or 2.
  • Naio's avatar
    Naio
    Explorer II
    Thanks for the blanket tip -- I didn't know they existed! I use low wattage home or pet heating pads on my ice machine.

    The blanket that just wraps the center of the battery like a cummerbund seems like it would be good and not insulate when unwanted. And 80 or so watts should warm up quickly. $$ for 4, though...

    https://www.amazon.com/Kats-22200-Watt-Battery-Thermal/dp/B000I8XD9E
  • Are you going to sub freezing temps for long stays?
    Most RVs, have the main battery compartment is exposed to outside air
    Like being under your van, but not as close to the street
    They suffer no cold weather problems and don't need to be warmed up

    Are you getting AGM chemistry confused with lithium chemistry, which can not recharged when cold?

    No I would not put them near the exhaust or close to the hot street, how high is the van frame, how high/far Above the ground will the bottom of the batteries be?
    They should be at least 18" above the street, the higher the better
    Unless your going North in the winter, cold is not a real concern, but summer heat is

    And remember, batteries survive being inside the engine compartment, with 200 degree engine temps hot radiator air flow, etc..
    So even heat is a moderate concern, unless exposed to hot exhaust pipes
  • Naio's avatar
    Naio
    Explorer II
    I've been using AGM for about 20 years in my ice machine. My experience is that they are good (albeit a bit weaker) down to about 40 degrees, but once they get into the 30s they are nearly useless.

    When I move camp to a place with warmer nights, it takes maybe 48 hours for my 45aH ice machine batteries to warm up, just from ambient temps. I'm concerned it may be a very long time for the bigger ones!
  • They have insulated battery heating blankets, they're 12v I believe.

    Protect from the exhaust the same way, put some fiberglass between them and a hot exhaust.

    AGM don't stop working when cold they're just less efficient. They tolerate temperature extremes better than a flooded battery.

    Installing in a tight insulated place, you'll definitely want a temperature compensated charger.

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