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Mako_Kupo
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Dec 11, 2017

clearance lights/fantastic fan grounding

hey everyone! I've finally got the entire outside built and sealed from weather on my 20 foot 1979 ford class C! I've got the new clearance lights/tail lights and 4x fantastic fan vents on there, ready to be wired. I'm going to wire those and all my 12v wiring needs(sockets, lights, etc). I can't put the actual sockets or figures yet because there are no walls, but I can run the wiring before the spray foam guy comes. the motorhome at the moment, is a tin box with wood sticks framing it on the inside. I have full access to wire where I need.

I know which wires go where for the most part, but what I don't know what to do is how to ground my 12v stuff. the fantastic fans, lights, sockets etc. when I was a kid, we had a Cortez and the generator was grounded to the outside panels stupidly, so if you touched ANY metal on the outside of the motorhome while the generator was running, you got a shock. this tells me not to ground to the thin outer panels, and that I might have to run grounding wire for everything. is that the case?

which of these things need grounding, and where can I ground them to?
clearance lights
tail lights/blinkers/running(one fixture)
fantastic fans
12v sockets

long story short, I'm moving into this in 3-4 weeks. it'll be pretty bare bones with wiring and insulation, basic appliances(Coleman stove+compost toielt+cooler), and my bed. in march when the ground isn't snow covered, I can finish the build but for a few months, this is what I have. so now I wire it and insulate it.

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  • If I were you , I would be satisfied with crimp fittings and wire nuts. Solder and shrink wrap is great but time consuming. To answer your question about the size of shrink wrap, I probably have eight or ten different sizes and as many colors. All of mine are in inches and not mm so here is the solution. Buy a variety pack from HFT and use the sizes closest to the wires being insulated. I used to use a match to heat but now I use a heat gun from HFT.

    I have not seen plain solder for a long time and I would just buy a solder that contains acid free flux, it's not rocket science. solder size is dependent on the gun or iron you're using. I have been using Kester, "44" rosin core solder that is .050 diameter for most things. I don't solder bigger stuff like 14 or 12 gauge, for that I use crimp fittings or insulated wire nuts.

    For connecting the fixture wires to the house wires I use mostly wirenuts and have been since we bought our first rig.

    I assume you are not going to insulate your interior walls and I would suggest you pull a pair of #16 or even 14 wires to each wall for future use. The wires can be coiled in a box or just left coiled in the wall. You're not going to be able to install them inside the exterior walls and ceiling once the insulation is in.

    When we built our home, I photographed the entire electrical and plumbing systems when the rough in work was done. Before I drill a hole in a wall I consult my photos to make sure I won't be hitting either a wire or a pipe. I also chose to have flex and pulled wire installed, I have pulled extra wires in several locals including, directly over the desk where my computer is. The ceiling fixture is behind me and was great for a bedroom but lacking for use as an office.

    Good luck and don't over think your project, K.I.S.S.
  • its code to make them waterproof, for the lights anyway. please, type of tubing for 14-16g? any advice for solder?
  • Don't see why one would need to shrink wrap/insulate the 2 volt ground.
  • oh boy going ion amazon to see what I need is a bit daunting. all the lights are mounted, and I have a solder gun/solder but I don't think I have flux. iu can go get some, but it seems like some solder has it built in(for lack of better term).

    type of solder
    thickness
    type of shrink wrap/size

    shrink wrap tubing for some reason is not sold/advertised in appropriate wire gauge sizes, but rather are listed in MM sizes. I don't know how 14g translates to mm or why they do that but its very confusing. I have no idea what to get, should I go for the "rosin infused" wiring? if so, what ratio? what size shrink tubing? when I run positive/ground from one to the next, I just solder them together and shrink wrap right? like daisy chaining for clearance lights? thank you soooo much!
  • Bobbo's avatar
    Bobbo
    Explorer III
    Everything 12v must be grounded. Ground to the frame at the nearest practical point.

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