pianotuna wrote:
Timmo,
We can agree that our society needs to reuse and recycle.
One of my cell phones is from 2015, the other from 2017. Both still have good battery life. The one from 2017 doesn't have a user replaceable battery.
I applaud the few RV's who are using repurposed EV batteries for their house banks.
Smelting aluminum is often done with power from hydroelectric plants. I think the temperature is about 1200 c (2192 f).
Yep, smelting is not an environmentally clean process (who would buy a house next to a smelting plant?). Of course sourcing all electrical generation from hydro plants would be nice ending to this fairy tale story, but it is not practical. How many more hydro dams can be built on the Colorado River? None is what my people tell me.
Imagine the challenge of shipping expired BEV lithium batteries from Hawaii to the wastelands of Nevada (USA's hub for destructive open pit lithium mining and battery production operations). You know the pristine area near the Oregon and Nevada border where several Indian tribes also call home, known as Thacker Pass. Imagine all the hazmat (expired batteries) being shipped by rail for recovery.
Is the current plan to let someone else in the future solve this riddle? If so, remember what happened to nuke waste.....like I said, some of us old folks have seen this movie before (including the B&W and the updated Technicolor version).