I don't think there is any disagreement that most new ideas/things/philosophies are oversold and are under-delivered (broken promises).
Team BEV speak as if there is a magic "perpetual motion" type technology capable of generating 100% clean energy; hence BEV is the only answer for everyone (good) and ICE is pit-to-we (bad). Simple binary option--either you're with us or against us. One size fits all.
Team ICE speak of multiple options that include both BEVs and ICE (personal preference/freedom of choice) and question the accuracy of the "sales pitch" proffered by Team BEV.
From Wiki--Perpetual motion is the motion of bodies that continues forever in an unperturbed system. A perpetual motion machine is a hypothetical machine that can do work infinitely without an external energy source. This kind of machine is impossible, as it would violate either the first or second law of thermodynamics or both.
If my clean is your dirty...then is it possible your clean is my dirty?
In some of the prior EV threads, I illustrated my situation that since my wife and I each drive 3-4k miles a year, it will take at least 15 years BEFORE the carbon footprint of the BEV will be less than a comparable ICE (cradle to grave).
Sorry, no one size fits all; not all drivers drive the same. The car culture in So Cali is unlike most of America--mass transit is not king; any day of the week 9 out of 10 cars on the 405 Freeway have zero passengers; just the driver.
Sometimes my correct answer is your incorrect answer.