Contradictions with EV’s

time2roll wrote:
Just do what you want and don't take it so personally. Nobody on this site is trying to rule the world.

It stayed pretty well non-political for a long time. Topics like this rarely stay non-political.

3 tons wrote:
In the end I believe that progress towards a more comprehensive, non-intermittent energy solution will be made once the Left absolves themselves of their self-righteousness and uber Enlightenment, often viewing others with the false moniker as “environmental Na#i’s” - Huh?…So are we to assume this matter truly about the environment, or have well intended folks simply become willing recruits (as per the inculcated dialectic…) while unknowingly supporting a nefarious cause??…(I donno, but history repeats…)…Collaborating Media calls of “It’s a Settled Science” is pure Mob-speak…I’ll look forward to the day when tolerance to opposing points of view is again permitted…

3 tons

Just do what you want and don't take it so personally. Nobody on this site is trying to rule the world.

time2roll,

Well said. My brother's system in the north is only doing 12 watts today. But 12 watts is better than no watts. This is his first winter with them in place.

In the end I believe that progress towards a more comprehensive, non-intermittent energy solution will be made once the Left absolves themselves of their self-righteousness and uber Enlightenment, often viewing others with the false moniker as “environmental Na#i’s” - Huh?…So are we to assume this matter truly about the environment, or have well intended folks simply become willing recruits (as per the inculcated dialectic…) while unknowingly supporting a nefarious cause??…(I donno, but history repeats…)…Collaborating Media calls of “It’s a Settled Science” is pure Mob-speak…I’ll look forward to the day when tolerance to opposing points of view is again permitted…

3 tons

LouLawrence wrote:
I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!

There is the option to put solar on your home and use no net coal electricity. This can be done with or without an EV in your garage.
I doubt you will be the first in your area... what are you waiting for?

I look forward to the day we stop digging for coal and drilling for oil.

Reported in the Hindu Times -

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/news/volvo-study-shows-making-evs-leads-to-70-more-emission-compared-to-ice-vehicles-41637402945989.html

3 tons

LouLawrence wrote:
I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!

BINGO!!…However, (not to be a wet blanket), Climate Activism (“THE SKY IS FALLING!!”…) has morphed into a politically charged cottage industry with an insatiable appetite for animating virtue and guilt (except for those sorry third world concerns), so they’d just move the goal post from carbon to argon, rendering their EV’s a moot subject…It’s not that I can’t admire EV’s (I do…) it’s just that I can see through the faux environmental hyped narrative that accompanies…

3 tons

pianotuna wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-do-electric-vehicles-become-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/

"DETROIT, June 29{2021} (Reuters) - You glide silently out of the Tesla (TSLA.O) showroom in your sleek new electric Model 3, satisfied you're looking great and doing your bit for the planet.

But keep going - you'll have to drive another 13,500 miles (21,725 km) before you're doing less harm to the environment than a gas-guzzling saloon."

Nice try, but do you really believe a $23k Toyota Corolla (3000 lb car with 169 hp) is comparable to a $91k Tesla (4500 lb car with 670 hp)?

Wouldn't a better comparison be a similar priced MBZ S500 (4775 lb car with 496 hp)?

Best analysis is when you have to comparable cars of similar weight, similar trim and are marketed to similar consumers. Hell, why not compare the Mini Cooper to the Tesla, your numbers would be better. Right?

Nah, I'll stick with a comprehensive study by Volvo over a simple article by in a newspaper. Gotta do better!

LouLawrence wrote:
I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!

Even with coal fired, the BEV is less polluting.

I love how folks think their EV is pollution free. Everyone in Co. Springs, CO is getting their electricity from a coal fire plant! Yes, that's clean! I love nuclear energy as well (zero emissions) but that creates it's on can of worms on disposal issues. Maybe we could load that nuclear fuel on one of Elon's rockets and send it crashing into the Sun for disposal!