Just a couple of weeks ago, 3 of the plastic banding straps underneath the foam cushions snapped. Pffft. We take very good care of things and both of us are under 200 lbs and never plop onto the sofa. Has a Lippert label on the back. The banding is the same stuff that is used on packaging and various containers. I went to the local shipping depot that I've used a lot and they gave me banding and plastic buckles, no charge.The way the sofa is built, you can't get fingers in to install the new banding so I stapled the new and old ends together to pull it through. Didn't take long to install 3 new pieces of the banding so fortunately wasn't a big deal. Now it feels much better to sit in.Thinking about this sofa failure, it kinda doesn't surprise me because it has - wait for it - a Lippert frame! :BTo add insult to injury, we have a new double recliner on order to replace the sofa and it will be ready in less than 2 weeks. Why the heck did the banding have to break just a few weeks before retiring it after over 3 years of use? It's almost like it's saying scr*w you, you can't get rid of me and I will haunt you to the ends of the earth... :R

Cheap plastic ****. Why? Because we keep buying it. I have replaces my shore power access door three times in 16 years. I would gladly pay a tad more for quality. That's the RV industry for you

That's the prevailing Sheeple Acceptance LevelJustGet ByThen send it to the land fill.Look at the psychology of modern life. A lot of it is not random coincidence. People who are directed to stay glued to The Big Picture of The Economy, and National Safety, cannot rob their leisure time to pursue smaller objectives.I wish my viewpoint was that of a paranoid. But it isn't. It is troubling to say the least."I cannot, I will not deal with this!" should be adopted as The National Mantra.

Lippert doesn't have anything to do with what broke. They only made the frame not the supports,padding, or covering. Poorly made furniture is what broke.

No. I used 14 ga steel to patch up the path where my slide rollers run and had been eating through the plastic membrane and into the osb. I now went under it to tidy up some cables and notice an 6" area next to a steel cross member where the membrane was tearing. It felt like wood so I cut it open a little more and discovered that part of the 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" floor framing boards was lower than the beam and pushing down enough to wear through the membrane. They missed the beam by an 1 1/2" which is the dimension of the lumber. Oh well they knew it was inch and a half something or other. The boards were cut short so just stick it in there. No one will know.I'm just glad I didn't pay $40,000 or $50,000 for this type of junk. I love this old girl at $10,000. 3 years of use at 7 months per year so it's already paid for itself. RV's are a heck of a quirky thing but they work!!

Oasisbob wrote:Cheap plastic ****. Why? Because we keep buying it. I have replaces my shore power access door three times in 16 years. I would gladly pay a tad more for quality. That's the RV industry for youThe bean counters are in charge, and their mandate is to make the product less expensive to produce. They do that by pressuring suppliers to cut prices, and by pushing the manufacturing operation to do more with less. So the quality of components goes down, and assembly is rushed, with predictable results.Nash, Lance, Airstream, and a few others have resisted the race to the bottom, and how many of those do you see in parks compared to Forest River and Keystone products?

Does stuff ever stop breaking?? This time it's the sofa.

Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Jul 18, 2017
As a direct answer to the topic posted in your header.....Does stuff ever stop breaking??.... The unequivocal answer is no.
Lynnmor
Explorer
Jul 18, 2017
When my Lippert sofa failed in three weeks, I found the word "rework" marked on the rewelded and redrilled frame. Yes, Lippert is producing more components than most people realize.
Ralph_Cramden
Explorer II
Jul 18, 2017
Tyler0215 wrote:
Lippert doesn't have anything to do with what broke. They only made the frame not the supports,padding, or covering. Poorly made furniture is what broke.

Lippert makes or provides multiple types of sofas, chairs, and recliners.

One thing for sure with anything associated with Lippert. It's as cheaply made as possible.
rockhillmanor
Explorer
Jul 19, 2017
Does stuff ever stop breaking?? This time it's the sofa

Nope and I think it is because they plan on us only using them on an occasional weekend. They just are not built for consistent daily use. Especially when we snowbird or full time in them.

When my sofa/bed wouldn't go back up straight in the closed position I called RV Mobile repair.

He shows up with a pick up truck instead of his mobile repair van, full of 2x4's etc.?? I said all I want you to do is just repair it not rebuild my entire RV!

His answer: I see thousands of these RV couches and when I open up yours you will see why I have the 2x4's and what I am going to do.

Within minutes He stripped down my entire couch frame and all and took it all outside.

When he opened it all up I gotta admit I was shocked all what was holding it together and how it was attached to the MH, or actually not holding it together. I have never seen such shoddy workman ship, how it was attached to the MH, and with what, and the use of the thinnest cheap particle wood construction I've every seen.

He made a complete new frame using the 2x4's and real braces and using the correct screws for the couch. Brought it back in and reinstalled the whole couch and attached it properly.

That couch now works better than it ever did when it was brand new! The back is now in an upright position that is inches straighter and sits higher than when new. And I can open and close it with one finger.

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