eu2000i

pnichols wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:
The Eu1000i is most sensitive to crappy gas laden with alcohol clogging it's jets and being a PIA to start and then start hunting or searching with fluctuating rpm's to maintain a load, due to the carb size and main jet size being the smallest. You have to load the gas you buy up with Seafoam and Techron and Blue Marine Sta-bil to keep the jets clean, and turn your gas over frequently, as well as drain the carb anytime you won't be using the /Eu1000i for more than a week.

This can mean more frequent carb tear downs, rebuilds, or flat out replacements. It keeps you broke and small gardener shops very busy sucking money out of your wallet to fix or repair, if you yourself are not mechanically inclined.

That's the first time I've read anything about the Honda 1000i's design being inferior to the Honda 2000i's design.

By the way, has anybody experienced a 13.5K air conditioner not starting up on a single Honda 2000i ... but starting up on paralleled Honda 1000i generators?

I'm curious as to whether or not paralleled 1000i generators can supply a bit more inrush current to a compressor than a single 2000i can. If this is the case, then IMHO it may be a no brainer to go with paralled 1000i's instead of paralleled 2000i's in many cases where we're talking about the leaviest RV load being a 13.5K air conditioner. This is not considering high altitude 13.5K air conditioner situations, where paralleled 2000i's would of course be the better way to go.

Where did you get the idea the 1000 is inferior to the 2000? The carburetor devices themselves are fine, the fuel with alcohol is what is inferior and causing all the problems with gumming and varnishing up the jets. This was rarely if ever a problem before our govt shoved 10% ethanol blends into our gasoline for powering these small devices.

That's a false statement you made.

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NinerBikes wrote:
I can't speak for others, but the only thing my EU2000i won't run is my 13.5K Btu AC unit, a Dometic model. It will run easy start 11k units, as well as some of the smaller 8k or 9k Coleman polartec models.

My Eu2000i will run my microwave oven.

My Eu1000 won't run much of anything except lights, heater that burns propane, and the battery charger. Not even a hair dryer.

YMMV.

The Eu1000i is most sensitive to crappy gas laden with alcohol clogging it's jets and being a PIA to start and then start hunting or searching with fluctuating rpm's to maintain a load, due to the carb size and main jet size being the smallest. You have to load the gas you buy up with Seafoam and Techron and Blue Marine Sta-bil to keep the jets clean, and turn your gas over frequently, as well as drain the carb anytime you won't be using the /Eu1000i for more than a week.

This can mean more frequent carb tear downs, rebuilds, or flat out replacements. It keeps you broke and small gardener shops very busy sucking money out of your wallet to fix or repair, if you yourself are not mechanically inclined.

Hmmmm ... doesn't your commentary above leave one with the impression that the Honda 1000i has negatives connected with it relative to the Honda 2000i?? Sorry if I misinterpreted ... in that you actually meant that BOTH the 1000i and 2000i have the fuel sensitivity issue.

That's where I got my idea ... from you! :h

FWIW, my ancient but excellent running condition Honda EX650 has no trouble with any kind of gas I've ever thrown at it and this is even including sitting around for months/years at a time between uses ... and I suspect that it has a good old fashioned carburetor. Why are the new(er) Honda generators more finicky about their fuel condition? If that's the case, it sounds like regressive engineering on Honda's part.

pnichols wrote:

NinerBikes wrote:
I can't speak for others, but the only thing my EU2000i won't run is my 13.5K Btu AC unit, a Dometic model. It will run easy start 11k units, as well as some of the smaller 8k or 9k Coleman polartec models.

My Eu2000i will run my microwave oven.

My Eu1000 won't run much of anything except lights, heater that burns propane, and the battery charger. Not even a hair dryer.

YMMV.

The Eu1000i is most sensitive to crappy gas laden with alcohol clogging it's jets and being a PIA to start and then start hunting or searching with fluctuating rpm's to maintain a load, due to the carb size and main jet size being the smallest. You have to load the gas you buy up with Seafoam and Techron and Blue Marine Sta-bil to keep the jets clean, and turn your gas over frequently, as well as drain the carb anytime you won't be using the /Eu1000i for more than a week.

This can mean more frequent carb tear downs, rebuilds, or flat out replacements. It keeps you broke and small gardener shops very busy sucking money out of your wallet to fix or repair, if you yourself are not mechanically inclined.

Hmmmm ... doesn't your commentary above leave one with the impression that the Honda 1000i has negatives connected with it relative to the Honda 2000i?? Sorry if I misinterpreted ... in that you actually meant that BOTH the 1000i and 2000i have the fuel sensitivity issue.

That's where I got my idea ... from you! :h

FWIW, my ancient but excellent running condition Honda EX650 has no trouble with any kind of gas I've ever thrown at it and this is even including sitting around for months/years at a time between uses ... and I suspect that it has a good old fashioned carburetor. Why are the new(er) Honda generators more finicky about their fuel condition? If that's the case, it sounds like regressive engineering on Honda's part.

Your assumption is that Honda makes the carburetor, they don't. Probably a Kehin or a Mikuni. Japan and Taiwan and the rest of the world are not running E-10 ethanol in their gasoline, to subsidize US corn farmers that are greasing the palms of politicians to grow more corn. Any time the govt subsidizes farmers, you get these problems, government creating markets, instead of leaving well enough alone, as ethanol is crappy fuel, period, and a crappy additive also. Ask anyone that's used ethanol for fuel in racing what it does to jets in carburetors if left in contact, it's an oxidizer. it destroys brass jets.

Pretty simple. A smaller engine will use less fuel so the carburetor jets will have a smaller hole. A smaller hole will get plugged with particles more easily. Ethanol, and the water it brings with it, will corrode fuel system parts and produce the jet clogging particles. The whole deal is not a Honda design problem, it's a Corn Lobby problem.

Another thing to keep in mind is that with a load of 800 watts a 1000 watt generator is running at full bore, so most likely it will be louder than a 2000 watt running at only half load.

NinerBikes wrote:
I can't speak for others, but the only thing my EU2000i won't run is my 13.5K Btu AC unit, a Dometic model. It will run easy start 11k units, as well as some of the smaller 8k or 9k Coleman polartec models.

My Eu2000i will run my microwave oven.

My Eu1000 won't run much of anything except lights, heater that burns propane, and the battery charger. Not even a hair dryer.

YMMV.

The Eu1000i is most sensitive to crappy gas laden with alcohol clogging it's jets and being a PIA to start and then start hunting or searching with fluctuating rpm's to maintain a load, due to the carb size and main jet size being the smallest. You have to load the gas you buy up with Seafoam and Techron and Blue Marine Sta-bil to keep the jets clean, and turn your gas over frequently, as well as drain the carb anytime you won't be using the /Eu1000i for more than a week.

This can mean more frequent carb tear downs, rebuilds, or flat out replacements. It keeps you broke and small gardener shops very busy sucking money out of your wallet to fix or repair, if you yourself are not mechanically inclined.

While it is true that the Eu 1000 carb jets are smaller and more prone to get clogged, I have found that with simple precautions fuel problems are eliminated. We use our Eu 1000 exclusively for dry camping even though we own two Eu 2000s.

I use Stabile Marine and drain the fuel from the tank and carb when we get back home and store the unit fuel dry.

Our Eu 2000 will run our Coleman 13.5 K A/C PS in 100 deg weather in Dallas. This unit pulls about 4A less than a standard 13.5.

Dick

The reason I got a 2000 over a 1000 is because it is only 200 bucks more for twice the power, and the noise is pretty much equal. 2000w = being able to run almost any 15a appliance, vs 1000 being overkill for battery charging, cell phone, and lights, and yet not enough for many other things.

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Hard to get a word in edgewise.:W

sh410 wrote:

2oldman wrote:
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Hard to get a word in edgewise.:W

Yeah. This thread is a hoot. The OP didn't even ask a question. Now appears he doesn't exist.