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landyacht318
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Oct 23, 2016

Ferrites, and buzzing

Hoping to start a discussion, not solve any issue here.

I have a "watt's up" wattmeter clone from Windy Nation. This came with 8awg leads instead of the usual 12awg.

I'd found its AH and KWH figures were straight from bizzarro world when tested against other meters, and gave up on it. But it is still useful for voltage and wattage, So I put it in between the Screwy31 and the schumacher Sc2500a "intelli" charger whose display is now toast, but other wise operates as it did new.

So this wattmeter on the schumacher, the voltage and amperage readings just bounce around. At 2 amps it will bounce from 0.07 to 8.82 amps and voltage will bounce +/- 0.5 volts. Another wattmeter inline is nice and steady.

When placed between battery and load this wattmeter reads amps volts fairly accurately, but in between schumacher and battery and it goes battcrap crazy.

So I have some Snap on Ferrite cores that fit over both 8awg leads together, and after doing so, the battcrap crazy level of 10, falls to a level 7.

Eyebrow raised, but Eh, shoulder shrug. Screwy31 is charging. Voltage with Schumacher unplugged from 120vAC still accurate.


Today, I found another snap on ferrite core, slightly smaller inner diameter. I thought perhaps more ferrites would perhaps help soothe the battcrap crazy wattmeter. It would not fit over both 8 awg wattmeter wires, or both 10AWG wires coming out of Schumacher. So I go snap it over one 10awg Schumacher output wire.

And as soon as the two halves get close to each other the schumacher starts buzzing loudly, Surprisingly loud. Open core back up and noise attenuates. I can modulate the volume of the buzzing just by how closed the snap on ferrite is over either + or - output wire.

Sounds like 60Hz.

It seems like I can actually feel the ferrite vibrating in my fingers.

What The pluck is going on?
  • Are the ferrites supposed to go over both wires and not just one?

    The schumacher had, and I returned, A non snap on Ferrite on the output leads 3 inches from circuit board.


    The larger ferrites on the both wattmeters leads did not cause any noise and are only 6 inches away from the one that causes the buzzing clamped over only one wire.

    I replaced the original 12awg with 10awg to the circuit board, and use 45 amp anderson powerpoles. I did the 10 AWG mod hoping it would keep it from going to 16.4v and perhaps the display would read closer to actual voltage.

    Neither improved, and now display does not say anything but 18.8 all the time. Kind of need some deisplay on the output to see if I pressed the right buttons for AGM and for 2 12 or 25 amps.
  • Your Schumacher is an escapee from the Wave Form Insane Asylum. The feedback from the output is what you are modifying with the ferrites. The chopper circuit in the schizo charger is trying to power the induction from the ferrites and having a poor time of it.
  • The charger is not producing a nice clean DC output, but rather some sort of pulsed output. This is not unusual; many battery chargers have no output filtering, and batteries basically don't care.

    It would be interesting to look at the current output waveform from the charger on an oscilloscope. The voltage output is somewhat steadier since its excursions are moderated by the attached battery.

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