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- SoundGuyExplorer
joelyn wrote:
OK, when I got up this Am i contacted my car ins. company (Geico), they also insure our trailer and explained the problem with my lock and he stated that we are covered for a locksmith to come out up to 100.00 per incident. So they contacted a locksmith in our area and they found one that would do the job for 55.00.
So 2 hours later he showed up and stuck a lock picking pick in the cylinder and popped open the lock. he said that on these FIC locks a pin inside sometimes slips making the lock think its locked and somehow will not let the key to be inserted. He stated that it happens sometimes as the lock gets older and the parts start to wear down inside.
Great that you've had your situation resolved but your locksmith's explanation is generalized at best and doesn't necessarily address the specific issue with FIC locks that are subject to recall. This fault isn't directly attributed to wear but rather is a well known failure with FIC locks manufactured between Jan 1, 2006 and Apr 30, 2013, as noted in the FIC Lock Recall ...
"Why is a recall being conducted?
Under normal use and operation, the key to the deadbolt lock can only be removed in the 12 o’clock (neutral) and 3 o’clock (unlocked) positions. In certain FIC locks made between January 1, 2006 and April 30, 2013, the key may be able to also be removed from the deadbolt cylinder when the key is in the 9 o’clock position. This condition may cause the deadbolt to jam, which could prevent occupants inside the trailer from being able to unlock the door from the inside and exit the trailer through the door, requiring them instead to use the emergency exit and potentially increasing the risk of injury."
This recall has been in effect for some time now so anyone who owns a trailer with an FIC lock assembly can easily identify whether the locks on their particular unit are part of the recall and even though you still haven't indicated the key number for your particular failed lock my bet it's on that recall list, meaning it was only a matter of time before it failed.
I maintain that 2112's suggestion of taking a Dremel tool to a failed $30 lock to remove it, at the risk of that Dremel inadvertently slipping a destroying a $500 door, is a terrible idea. :E However, I have to also thank him as it's got me thinking even more about my own emergency entry process into our trailer should the entry door lock ever fail. Here's a pic of the pass through cargo compartment in our current trailer which is typical of most travel trailers with a front queen island bed ...
That centre piece of paneling is the same piece shown in this next pic taken from inside the trailer ...
Removing this panel from the pass through cargo compartment side would be difficult if the underbed storage area has items stored in it but if I were to instead mount that panel from the pass through cargo compartment side I'd be able to easily access that underbed storage area from the pass through to empty it and then crawl in, putting me inside the trailer. At that point I'd simply push up on the hinged portion of the bed platform to gain full entry to the interior of the trailer. Another option - since that above picture was taken I've added cabinet doors to the end of the bed platform ...
I doubt I could squeeze through one of those openings but a 10 yr old sure would, at which point that same 10 yr old could remove the screws securing the entry door lock. Considering this is such an easy and obvious solution for most to gain entry into their travel trailer in a case where the entry door lock may have failed there's not a chance I'd ever consider taking a Dremel tool or pry or anything else to the door lock. :E - j-dExplorer IIGood Deal!!!
The locksmith's explanation sounds like your lock is covered by the recall linked a few posts back. I read the recall letter and it contains the Key Codes involved. If no Key Code (your key is a duplicate vs. an original) then there's a label inside the lock with that info.
Or... $30 or so for a new one...
Glad nothing was damaged and everybody came up clean. - gboppExplorerThanks for the update. That's good to know.
- joelynExplorerUPDATE}}}}}} UPDATE}}}}}}
OK, when I got up this Am i contacted my car ins. company (Geico), they also insure our trailer and explained the problem with my lock and he stated that we are covered for a locksmith to come out up to 100.00 per incident. So they contacted a locksmith in our area and they found one that would do the job for 55.00.
So 2 hours later he showed up and stuck a lock picking pick in the cylinder and popped open the lock. he said that on these FIC locks a pin inside sometimes slips making the lock think its locked and somehow will not let the key to be inserted. He stated that it happens sometimes as the lock gets older and the parts start to wear down inside. He said it may not ever happen again but advised to replace the lock since they are fairly a cheap insurance .
So I will look for one on line and replace it this weekend.
So all in all everything worked out fine with no damage being caused to anything and best of all no cost to me.
Want to thank everyone for all the help, suggestions and advise that was offered. As usual, everyone on here is always ready to help out when ever a problem arises. This is my first place to come to to see what can be done no matter what goes wrong.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN. - SoundGuyExplorer
2112 wrote:
I was in a state park a few years ago when one of our fellow campers was cutting away at his lock assembly with a Dremel tool using a cut off blade. I assume another victim of FIC. He got the door open by cutting up the assembly but I do not know the details.
Might be something to try.SoundGuy wrote:
JMO, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this with any high speed tool - one inadvertent slip and you could be replacing the entire door. :M Instead, go through where any damage will be minimal, easy repairable, and invisible once corrected - the front pass through storage compartment.2112 wrote:
With all due respect replacing a door is simple. You're advocating cutting out bed supports. Are you kidding :h
ME kidding?!! Hardly. It makes more sense to you to risk damaging a door with a Dremel tool that's inadvertently slipped out of your hands and would cost hundreds to replace over cutting through a couple of pieces of wood worth 50 cents?!!! Good grief. :S
Next spring I plan to install a couple of additional receptacles next to the bed in our trailer and to do so I'll be pulling a couple of the pass through compartment panels in order to gain access to where I need to work. Now that this discussion about failed door locks has come up I'll be modifying those panels and reattaching them with screws so in the unlikely event my own entry door lock should fail I'll be able to gain entry to the interior of the trailer via the pass through storage area simply by removing those screws. :B
Take a chance on damaging the entry door just to remove an inoperative door lock?! Ha Ha ... now that's funny! :W - rockhillmanorExplorer III could not get my door off. I guess I'd try what Trimark suggested first and if that doesn't work you can do what my mobile repair guy ended up doing. Of course asking me first!
He pried the trim away from the lock. Got in there and was able to pull the lock out. Ordered me a new one and the next day I was back on the road. I had to get in right then and there so I said go for it.
The trim pushes back in with minimal damage. I did just leave mine and sprayed a little white paint on it to cover the scratches.
Or when you have the time go back and replace the trim.
Like I said after the first lock out and THAN a second lock out with the new replacement lock I took that striker out and only use the dead bolt now AND.....I always leave one window unlocked.
Keep in mind there are probably millions of those locks with the pot metal part STILL on shelves and installed in new RV's all over the US. A month doesn't go by that I don't run into someone that got locked out because the pot metal failed. IMHO and Trimark won't commit to me on way or the other, they are still using the same pot metal in their locks. And just offering the replacement part.:R
BTW: one of the most common symptoms that the lock is getting ready to blow is when the red lever inside starts giving you trouble not locking smoothly or sticks. Run don't walk to get another lock while you still can get in and out of your RV. :B - 2112Explorer II
Ozlander wrote:
Well how about that. My local KZ dealer has a door for mine in stock ready to be installed for $485 installed.2112 wrote:
SoundGuy wrote:
With all due respect replacing a door is simple. You're advocating cutting out bed supports. Are you kidding :h2112 wrote:
I was in a state park a few years ago when one of our fellow campers was cutting away at his lock assembly with a Dremel tool using a cut off blade. I assume another victim of FIC. He got the door open by cutting up the assembly but I do not know the details.
Might be something to try.
JMO, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this with any high speed tool - one inadvertent slip and you could be replacing the entire door. :M Instead, go through where any damage will be minimal, easy repairable, and invisible once corrected - the front pass through storage compartment.
I'm sure Camping World has doors that fit all TT's in stock in the back someplace.
Not.
He said break a window and throw a kid through it. The window is cheaper. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorer
bighatnohorse wrote:
Hopefully you haven't sprayed anything into the lock.
Graphite is the appropriate lube for sticking locks.
Most auto shops or Ace Hardware will have it. You want a small tube with a small tip. Hold the tip against the lock opening, pry the little cover to the side if needed, and give the tube a squeeze or two.
Put a little graphite on the key and attempt to insert it. Try again if it doesn't work the first time.
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Lock lubricant is referred to as graphite fluid. Has virtually no body and the liquid, all of it evaporates quickly. Use anything else down here with desert sand and powder and it condemns the lock in short order. A locksmith lectured me on this. - Chris_BryantExplorer IIYou can just remove the door from the outside- nearly all trailer doors are just attached via the mounting flange. A power drill driver and a putty knife and the door can be off in 5 minutes, back on in 10.
- OzlanderExplorer
2112 wrote:
SoundGuy wrote:
With all due respect replacing a door is simple. You're advocating cutting out bed supports. Are you kidding :h2112 wrote:
I was in a state park a few years ago when one of our fellow campers was cutting away at his lock assembly with a Dremel tool using a cut off blade. I assume another victim of FIC. He got the door open by cutting up the assembly but I do not know the details.
Might be something to try.
JMO, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this with any high speed tool - one inadvertent slip and you could be replacing the entire door. :M Instead, go through where any damage will be minimal, easy repairable, and invisible once corrected - the front pass through storage compartment.
I'm sure Camping World has doors that fit all TT's in stock in the back someplace.
Not.
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