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Wet_Coast
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Aug 22, 2015

Getting to that magic 14.8 v with an RV Charge Controller

Hi all, there have been some really constructive discussions in a number of threads in the past couple of weeks regarding battery voltages.

The threads have a re-ocurring theme. Get your batteries to the magic 14.8 volts. While this can be done with a manual charger and a good eye, it's hard to do with the "automatic" charger controllers.. I wish I had found certain material before I coughed up for the PD9160!

I installed my Charge Wizard this morning and found in the super duper charging mode I am getting 14.36, not even 14.4v. Too bad the pessimistic engineers didn't go even a couple of decimal points higher to match their specs!

Is there any way to tweak, say a Progressive Dynamics or other manufactures charger that is "off warranty"?

The PD9160 seems to have some of the case pop riveted. Haven't looked too close as I thought I would ask the question before venturing forth myself. While folks say there may be a way to adjust things, there is no material on how to with the various controllers, RV or solar.

Regardless, my Tracer solar controller according to the spec sheet is supposed to 14.8v. What I am thinking until I can have my technology evolve, is rely on the PD9160 to get it at least to 14.37 and not 14.4 they claim and have the solar get it to 14.8v top it off after.

As well, I went through Handy Bob's material.
Handy Bob's Solar Blog. Unfortunately, he does not mention any under the hood stuff either. Boy, I would love to have a chat with him at the fire one evening!

So learned propeller heads, is there a easy way to adjust the PD chargers to get them to 14.8?

thanks
  • Wouldn't it be possible to use a boost converter with the PD charger to get that last .4 VDC? Also, I would think someone familiar with power supplies could tweak the voltage within but that might be pushing the components to an early demise.
    AFAIK, the independent power supplies (Megawatt/Meanwell) are the easiest solution for achieving the higher voltages needed for 6V GC2 batteries.

    I programmed my Morningstar solar controller to do the brain work. It must be doing good work as the SG levels are at baseline while in storage.
  • For how long do you get 58A? The PD measured above also output 58A for about 10 seconds. After 30 min the current was 45A and converter voltage was at 14.2V.

    That's fine if you're predominately on shore power. But if you're operating the gen, then it's a whole different ball game.

    otrfun wrote:
    Looks pretty good to me. I also use a PD9260.

    Although I try to appreciate the various discussions about different charge voltages, for my layman needs I'm much more concerned about getting the proper charge current.

    With my batteries discharged to 12.2v, my PD9260 produces almost 58 amps of initial charge current (measured using a clamp-on ammeter). It's rated at 60 amps. No complaints here.
  • To my knowledge, when off the grid, and on a generator, charging with a switching power supply set at 14.8V, there is only one thing limiting the amount of current it will send into the battery.

    That would be the battery or batteries resistance to taking a charge based solely on the battery chemistry and how much sulfur is still on the plates, and not in ionic form as sulfuric acid in the electrolyte.

    So the PSU sends only what the battery chemistry can take. That is it, that is the limiting factor. I am, of course, comparing a 36 amp or 30 amp PSU to a 36 or 30 amp PD, or Iota. If you want to run a pair of MegaWatts through a Schotky diode and lose .4V off the top of the 15.4 to 15.5V a MegaWatt is capable of, then so be it, but then you can pair a set of them for 60 amps, or 72 Amp capacity.

    Compare the amps you get for the price of $50 or $60 for 30 or 36 amps, to any other PD or iota of like amperage, then get back to me with what you paid for your PD or Iota for the same amps. I think in the smaller sizes, you'll find the price per charging amp to be quite a value.

    Caveat: I run off a small 158 Amp hr AGM now, it's resistance is a lot lower than the Trojan T-1275 I had previously. The T-1275 ate 14.8V like nothing. It was beat up and sulfated when I got it. I routinely thought nothing of whacking it with 15.0V and 16.0V when I got it, to clean it up, top charge, it, then equalize charge it. It took 3 attempts and about a week, with days in between, to finally get the last cells SG up to where it was correct, with a manual battery charger.

    The AGM is like nothing I've ever seen before, it's capacity for amps during charging when below 85 or 90% is hard for me to comprehend right now, even at only 13.5V, the recommended bulk charge voltage.

    14.8V is only the magic number if your battery manufacturer says it is the magic number. Don't forget the Screwy 31 by US battery had a recommended top charging voltage of 15.3V. The battery manufacturer has final say for magic voltage, not the charger manufacturer.
  • Like I said going into this on this forum the hydrometer is The Boss. All else is Fuzzy Logic and if you are not familiar with that legitimate term I suggest you WikiPedia it. Chemistry and fuzzy logic don't get along.
  • Have you tried using 2 Megawatts with diodes to output twice the current? I'm not sure it will work.

    NinerBikes wrote:

    If you want to run a pair of MegaWatts through a Schotky diode and lose .4V off the top of the 15.4 to 15.5V a MegaWatt is capable of, then so be it, but then you can pair a set of them for 60 amps, or 72 Amp capacity.

  • I start off running with gusto. Twenty feet later I fall flat on my face.

    People ask me if I can run...

    I reply "Oh hell yes!"
  • A simple resister change can up the Boost voltage from the typical 14.4 to 14.8
    Should not take more than 30 minutes for a competent technician

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