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How Big a Gen to Run a Converter? Some Info.

EDIT: some of my earlier posts in this thread have the wrong idea. As more info came in later, things got less confusing--sort of! :) --------------------- Another look at this topic. It is n...
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Another look at this topic. It is not a question post, but perhaps some comments with added info will come in.

Example- you have a 55 amp converter and are shopping for a generator and decide you want a Honda (eg), but which one will do the job?

Note-I found out the \" converter industry\" uses the word \"efficiency\" to include the PF factor, so we don't have to think of efficiency and PF as two different things to apply to this problem.

Converter efficiency is the same as the efficiency of a solar controller. Watts out vs watts in. Simple. :)

We can easily get the watts out figure by noting the DC amps out and the battery voltage, but measuring the AC watts in requires a meter most of us don't have. We don't need that if we know the efficiency. Just derive it from the efficiency and watts out.

Why do that? Because we need to know how many watts the generator has to supply to run the converter. Since the efficiency includes the converter's PF, we can say the generator's requirement is its specified continuous VA rating.

Now back to that 55 amp converter. You see it goes to eg, 14.8v so your max output would be 55a x 14.8v = 814 watts

The efficiency should be specified for that converter somewhere. We have been told on here in the past, that PDs are around 70%. PowerMax says their 55 is at 85% but their 75s and above are PF corrected to be at 93% or so. Check the specs for any brand and converter amps size you are looking at.

(Some info suggests the efficiency is actually much less for converters depending on how hard they are working. No idea, so let's use the specs we have.)

At 85%, and output 814w, then you need 100/85 x 814 = 958w input
At 70% you need 100/70 x 814 = 1,163w input

If only they would make a PF corrected 55, then 100/93 x 814 = 875w input.

Looking at Honda ratings, you have 900 for the \"1000w\" and 1600 for the \"2000w\"

So now you can decide. You need a \"2000w\" for your 55 amp converter. The \"1000w\" can't run it at full converter output.

People with this problem sometimes do a \"work -around\" by reducing the converter output voltage with the Charge Wizard until charging amps taper enough that they can raise the voltage so that output watts stays under the limit.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a PF corrected 55amper, which would, at 875 input required, be under the 900 rating for input? So sad, too bad.

You can use this calculation the other way, where you already have the gen, but now want to know how big of a charger you can run with it before going shopping for a charger.

BTW, the PD 45 amper and \"1000\" story is:

100/70 x (45 x 14.4) = 926, still over 900. We know people do run their 45 ampers with a \"1000\" somehow, so there must be a little wiggle room somewhere. A PD that has 14.8 max instead of 14.4 might exceed that wiggle room? No idea!

If the 45's efficiency is 85% with 14.8v max, then output is 45 x 14.8 = 666w and that needs 100/85 x 666 = 783 well under the 900 limit for a \"1000\"","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2016-08-28T09:59:19.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":3,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2324193_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":8455},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"EDIT: some of my earlier posts in this thread have the wrong idea. As more info came in later, things got less confusing--sort of! :)
---------------------


Another look at this topic. It is not a question post, but perhaps some comments with added info will come in.

Example- you have a 55 amp converter and are shopping for a generator and decide you want a Honda (eg), but which one will do the job?

Note-I found out the \" converter industry\" uses the word \"efficiency\" to include the PF factor, so we don't have to think of efficiency and PF as two different things to apply to this problem.

Converter efficiency is the same as the efficiency of a solar controller. Watts out vs watts in. Simple. :)

We can easily get the watts out figure by noting the DC amps out and the battery voltage, but measuring the AC watts in requires a meter most of us don't have. We don't need that if we know the efficiency. Just derive it from the efficiency and watts out.

Why do that? Because we need to know how many watts the generator has to supply to run the converter. Since the efficiency includes the converter's PF, we can say the generator's requirement is its specified continuous VA rating.

Now back to that 55 amp converter. You see it goes to eg, 14.8v so your max output would be 55a x 14.8v = 814 watts

The efficiency should be specified for that converter somewhere. We have been told on here in the past, that PDs are around 70%. PowerMax says their 55 is at 85% but their 75s and above are PF corrected to be at 93% or so. Check the specs for any brand and converter amps size you are looking at.

(Some info suggests the efficiency is actually much less for converters depending on how hard they are working. No idea, so let's use the specs we have.)

At 85%, and output 814w, then you need 100/85 x 814 = 958w input
At 70% you need 100/70 x 814 = 1,163w input

If only they would make a PF corrected 55, then 100/93 x 814 = 875w input.

Looking at Honda ratings, you have 900 for the \"1000w\" and 1600 for the \"2000w\"

So now you can decide. You need a \"2000w\" for your 55 amp converter. The \"1000w\" can't run it at full converter output.

People with this problem sometimes do a \"work -around\" by reducing the converter output voltage with the Charge Wizard until charging amps taper enough that they can raise the voltage so that output watts stays under the limit.

Wouldn't it be nice if they made a PF corrected 55amper, which would, at 875 input required, be under the 900 rating for input? So sad, too bad.

You can use this calculation the other way, where you already have the gen, but now want to know how big of a charger you can run with it before going shopping for a charger.

BTW, the PD 45 amper and \"1000\" story is:

100/70 x (45 x 14.4) = 926, still over 900. We know people do run their 45 ampers with a \"1000\" somehow, so there must be a little wiggle room somewhere. A PD that has 14.8 max instead of 14.4 might exceed that wiggle room? No idea!

If the 45's efficiency is 85% with 14.8v max, then output is 45 x 14.8 = 666w and that needs 100/85 x 666 = 783 well under the 900 limit for a \"1000\""},"Conversation:conversation:2324193":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:2324193","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2324193"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-09-28T05:23:32.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2016-09-28T05:23:32.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":84,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2324193":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2324193","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:2324193_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:2324193_1","lastEditTime":"2016-08-28T09:59:19.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2324243":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:2324243","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2324193"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:371640"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":2324243,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"subject":"Re: How Big a Gen to Run a Converter? Some Info.","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2324243"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2324193"},"body":"i found this, while searching power meters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power

Here below is a text excert, but it does clarify part of the previous discussion and the reasoning behind the 20amp plug on a measured 1300+ watt load
(because the line loads are higher than what the power being consumed is)(current/amps in the circuit that do no work but heat up the wiring and supply components like outlets ,, plugs , wire)


Practical loads have resistance, inductance, and capacitance, so both active and reactive power will flow to real loads. Power engineers measure apparent power as the magnitude of the vector sum of active and reactive power. Apparent power is the product of the root-mean-square of voltage and current. Electrical engineers take apparent power into account when designing and operating power systems, because though the current associated with reactive power does no work at the load, it heats the conductors and wastes energy. Conductors, transformers and generators must be sized to carry the total current, not just the current that does useful work. Failure to provide for the supply of sufficient reactive power in electrical grids can lead to lowered voltage levels and under certain operating conditions to the complete collapse of the network or blackout. Another consequence is that adding the apparent power for two loads will not accurately give the total apparent power unless they have the same displacement between current and voltage (the same power factor).

Conventionally, capacitors are considered to generate reactive power and inductors to consume it. If a capacitor and an inductor are placed in parallel, then the currents flowing through the inductor and the capacitor tend to cancel rather than add. This is the fundamental mechanism for controlling the power factor in electric power transmission; capacitors (or inductors) are inserted in a circuit to partially compensate reactive power 'consumed' by the load. Purely capacitive circuits supply reactive power with the current waveform leading the voltage waveform by 90 degrees, while purely inductive circuits absorb reactive power with the current waveform lagging the voltage waveform by 90 degrees. The result of this is that capacitive and inductive circuit elements tend to cancel each other out.


for more info
read the complete page OR as much of it as you can digest
I skipped all the polyphase equations","body@stringLength":"2630","rawBody":"i found this, while searching power meters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power

Here below is a text excert, but it does clarify part of the previous discussion and the reasoning behind the 20amp plug on a measured 1300+ watt load
(because the line loads are higher than what the power being consumed is)(current/amps in the circuit that do no work but heat up the wiring and supply components like outlets ,, plugs , wire)


Practical loads have resistance, inductance, and capacitance, so both active and reactive power will flow to real loads. Power engineers measure apparent power as the magnitude of the vector sum of active and reactive power. Apparent power is the product of the root-mean-square of voltage and current. Electrical engineers take apparent power into account when designing and operating power systems, because though the current associated with reactive power does no work at the load, it heats the conductors and wastes energy. Conductors, transformers and generators must be sized to carry the total current, not just the current that does useful work. Failure to provide for the supply of sufficient reactive power in electrical grids can lead to lowered voltage levels and under certain operating conditions to the complete collapse of the network or blackout. Another consequence is that adding the apparent power for two loads will not accurately give the total apparent power unless they have the same displacement between current and voltage (the same power factor).

Conventionally, capacitors are considered to generate reactive power and inductors to consume it. If a capacitor and an inductor are placed in parallel, then the currents flowing through the inductor and the capacitor tend to cancel rather than add. This is the fundamental mechanism for controlling the power factor in electric power transmission; capacitors (or inductors) are inserted in a circuit to partially compensate reactive power 'consumed' by the load. Purely capacitive circuits supply reactive power with the current waveform leading the voltage waveform by 90 degrees, while purely inductive circuits absorb reactive power with the current waveform lagging the voltage waveform by 90 degrees. The result of this is that capacitive and inductive circuit elements tend to cancel each other out.


for more info
read the complete page OR as much of it as you can digest
I skipped all the polyphase 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