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rfloyd99
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Mar 31, 2017

How to Increase Battery Capacity

After spending 10+ years studying RVs prior to buying one I’m amazed at what I still don’t know! Turns out the cure for that is this amazing forum.

The latest issue I’m lost about is a LOT more complicated (and expensive) than I expected. I have studied past threads on the subject and need some advice, as the trial and error method would just be too painful.

Here’s the problem I’m trying to solve: Wife and I will be leaving in a month or so for a six month trip in our 14 month old 2016 model Jayco 26 ft TT. We took several trips over the last year, but never camped without an electric hookup more than a few one-nighters.

Last weekend we went on a three day dry camp, and found that our battery (cheap one that came with the unit, an Interstate flooded cell HD24-DP Marine/RV, 405 CCA,505 MCA) lasted less than 48hours. We were as frugal as possible, running the water pump, fridge, water heater (occasionally) and very little lighting (LEDs). In comparing notes with fellow campers I learned that the fridge, while on propane, still uses electricity. I assume the WH does too (?)

On our upcoming trip we were planning to boondock about 25% of the time, for up to 3-4 days at a time. While we can make do without using the TT’s lights and water heater, the fridge and water pump are pretty much a necessity.

The solutions I’ve read about involve two 6V batteries ($500), an upgraded charger ($250), or a generator ($$$) or a large-amp solar system ($$$). For economic and other reasons I’m not willing or able to do any of these. I am able to spend about $200 or maybe a little more on a new AGM 12V 100ah deep charge battery. I have found two (made in China, on Amazon) for about $175ish.

My question - would this really give us much more power than what we have now? Previous threads seem to say that without a stronger charger (another $250) we won’t get the full potential of the better battery. Also, since we didn’t know any better, we probably ran our existing battery lower than the 50% level. If we do buy the better battery and use it only to the 50% discharge point, will we get even 48 hours out of it?

Last part of the question – If we get a better battery (or even just keep the old one), will one of the 100amp basic solar kits for about $125 help keep a usable charge?

I do have room to add a 2nd battery, BTW.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

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  • DrewE wrote:
    You can get two decent (not top-of-the-line) flooded 6V golf cart batteries from e.g. Sam's Club or Costco for less than $200 total. That would probably give you two to three times the usable power as your existing battery, assuming you have or can make physical room to replace it with them.


    The OP's current G24 battery is worth ~ 75 AH, 50% of which is usable. Two 6 volt GC-2s in series are worth ~ 220 AH, half usable, and sufficient for most to get through 3 or 4 nights of dry camping, particularly if he also carries his existing G24 in the back of his truck as a spare, adding another usable 35 - 40 AHs to the mix. :B

    If the fridge has a switch for climate control, make sure it's turned off.


    And as mentioned also, if the fridge doesn't have a switch to disable it's climate control heating element than either disconnect the wire that feeds it or better still add a switch yourself. Pics showing how I did this are in my gallery.
  • I don't understand where you think you need to spend so much money. A pair of 6V golf cart batteries will cost you <$200, double your battery capacity, and won't require special charging equipment. You can get them at Sam's Club if you are a member.


    Or Costco...I just bought six of them for $85 each. Golf Cart batteries will provide you with more bang for the buck and two should do you nicely.

    Look on eBay for a used Honda or Yamaha 1000W generator...that will keep your batteries at full charge with minimum running time. I just saw a refurbished 2000w for about $650...that's a great deal.

    You need to do a little more researching, as your estimated costs are pretty much out of line.

    Good luck

    Ron
  • You can get two decent (not top-of-the-line) flooded 6V golf cart batteries from e.g. Sam's Club or Costco for less than $200 total. That would probably give you two to three times the usable power as your existing battery, assuming you have or can make physical room to replace it with them. You generally ought to be able to power the fridge control board and water heater and water pump etc. for at least a few days without much trouble with them. As always, it's impossible to be very precise in these sorts of estimates without having a reasonably accurate idea of what your trailer's power consumption is.

    If the fridge has a switch for climate control, make sure it's turned off. Some fridges have this "feature" without a switch; if that's the case, it would be worthwhile to disconnect it. (It's a little heating element around the door seals that prevents the formation of condensation there, at the expense of using a fair little bit of 12V power.)
  • Using the furnace, even for a short time will kill a single GP24 combo battery rather fast. Solution..... more power. Change the cheap junk for a pair of true deep cycle batteries. The least costly option to have plenty of power is probably a generator. Honda or Yamaha 2KW are not cheap, but quiet and reliable. If you really want to be off grid, solar would be the way to go. Of course for solar to be useful, you also need sufficient battery storage to store all the power. Cost wise your looking at north of $2K to do it right.
  • 500 for golf cart batteries? Where are you buying them? Decent 6V golf cart batteries should run around a hundred dollars each. For a TT you would be better off with 2 quality GP27 deep cycles. Generator, maybe 1200, chnverter? Naw. Maybe an inverter for a little TV watching? Couple hundred.
  • Your charger is probably fine, but obviously won't work sans generator when dry camping. The solar will help, and considering your minimal use, should be fine.

    Your existing battery is not suitable for Rv use, and it sounds like it's not in very good shape if it can't support those items you mentioned. I'd suggest getting 2 batteries, either 2 6s or 2 12s. Don't add another battery to yours. Get rid of it.

    How do you make do without using lights? Go to bed when the sun goes down?
  • Right off the bat, you mean 100 WATT solar kit, and no, it won't help keep a usable charge. Something like that is good for charging and maintaining while the trailer is in storage.

    The amount of time a battery lasts is directly related to its capacity in Ah (Amp-hours). If the new battery has more capacity than the old battery by that Ah rating, then it will last longer. Ah is the key.

    The refrigerator and water heater don't use much power unless something is very very wrong. They have electronic control boards that monitor temperature and light the burner when the temperature gets too cool/warm, depending on heater or fridge.

    I don't understand where you think you need to spend so much money. A pair of 6V golf cart batteries will cost you <$200, double your battery capacity, and won't require special charging equipment. You can get them at Sam's Club if you are a member.

    Even so you need to adhere to the discharge less than 50% rule, and you need an effective way to charge the battery. Your trailer is wired to pull a charge from the truck's alternator, but your truck may need a fuse or relay installed to activate that feature. With factory wiring its effectiveness is limited, but you can install a heavy charge line directly from the alternator to charge while you're on the road.