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Bumpyroad
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May 15, 2015

jump starter et.al.

saw a small jump starter, battery source, etc. at Lowe's and Sam's today. Lowe's was $80 and 10,000 mAH, with a 12 v 10 amp output, 400 amp carrier? 200 amp starter , the one at sam's was 7500 mah. didn't have the ones at sam's priced but the lady thought $50.
If these things can actually charge a phone, etc. and in a pinch jump start a motor it would interest me. admittedly a 10,000 mAH would only be good for one try?
any ideas?
bumpy
  • Ron3rd's avatar
    Ron3rd
    Explorer III
    MNtundraRet wrote:
    Why would you pay that type of money for a 10 amp or 7.5 amp battery? For that kind of money you could have an marine (start /RV) group 24 battery.

    It is a prodict sold to dummies.


    I see where you're coming from, I was thinking the same thing, ie, just buy a cheap Group 24 Marine from Wang Mart and keep it charged up. I think the advantage is with the built in cables, ports, etc that make it attractive as others have noted.
  • MNtundraRet wrote:
    Why would you pay that type of money for a 10 amp or 7.5 amp battery? For that kind of money you could have an marine (start /RV) group 24 battery.

    It is a prodict sold to dummies.


    Some of us dummies know the jump boxes are way more convenient and versatile vs. a battery. However we are keeping it a secret from smart guys like you.
  • Dutch_12078 wrote:
    MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
    PC310 12 310 100 200 155 8 7 9 5.43
    (138.0) 3.39
    (86.0) 3.98

    A FIVE POUND Odyssey AGM battery has one hundred CCA. (100).

    Pray tell, what miracle chemistry are they using in the handy-dandy five pounds total including compressor, lights, siren, boombox, telephone wire size jumper cables, and art deco case?

    Dilithium Crystals?

    Motor vehicles with GEAR REDUCTION starter motors require about forty percent of the amperage of conventional straight drive starters. A 1700 CC four cylinder toad engine with gear reduction starter makes for a poor reference.

    The specs for my Zeta Pocket Battery Jump Starter:

    Dimensions: 5-1/8" x 3" x 1"
    Weight: .66 lbs.
    Output: 5 Volts, 2 Amps; 12 Volt Jump Starter
    Full Charging Time: 3 hours
    Starting Current: 200 Amps
    Peak Current: 400 Amps
    Operating Temperature: -4F to 140F

    And it easily started my previous coach's Ford 460 when the chassis battery would only illicit that "click" that makes you say, "Oh, oh". My model does not have a compressor, but it does have an LED flashlight and will power or charge multiple USB devices for quite a few days before needing a recharge.


    Love the concept of the Jacko but check out the recall.

    http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2015/Jackco-Transnational-Recalls-ZETA-Battery-Pack/
  • I carry a 2nd battery in a battery holder in my engine compartment, gives me peace of mind.
  • John & Angela wrote:
    Dutch_12078 wrote:

    The specs for my Zeta Pocket Battery Jump Starter:

    Dimensions: 5-1/8" x 3" x 1"
    Weight: .66 lbs.
    Output: 5 Volts, 2 Amps; 12 Volt Jump Starter
    Full Charging Time: 3 hours
    Starting Current: 200 Amps
    Peak Current: 400 Amps
    Operating Temperature: -4F to 140F

    And it easily started my previous coach's Ford 460 when the chassis battery would only illicit that "click" that makes you say, "Oh, oh". My model does not have a compressor, but it does have an LED flashlight and will power or charge multiple USB devices for quite a few days before needing a recharge.


    Love the concept of the Jacko but check out the recall.

    http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2015/Jackco-Transnational-Recalls-ZETA-Battery-Pack/

    Thanks for the heads up! The manufacturing date on mine is earlier than the one listed in the recall notice, but I will contact them to check the status. My Zeta has 12-volt and USB 5-volt outputs, with no 19-volt output and fewer accessories than shown in the recall.
  • JaxDad's avatar
    JaxDad
    Explorer III
    Lantley wrote:
    MNtundraRet wrote:
    Why would you pay that type of money for a 10 amp or 7.5 amp battery? For that kind of money you could have an marine (start /RV) group 24 battery.

    It is a prodict sold to dummies.


    Some of us dummies know the jump boxes are way more convenient and versatile vs. a battery. However we are keeping it a secret from smart guys like you.


    Some of us dummies have figured out that a booster pack can be put almost anywhere, upside down or sideways even, and charged inside the coach too.

    They're also way smaller than a Group 24 battery is.
  • found it at the sam's club web site. a chargeit jumP for $50. looks sort of neat, 120 v wall wart, 12 v cigarette lighter plug, etc.
    I am assuming that the difference of 7,500 mamp and 10,000 mamp isn't a deal breaker?
    note to the nay sayers, NO I do not intend to replace my two deep cycle size 27 batteries with it.
    bumpy
  • Bumpyroad wrote:
    years back a fella at a VA rest area asked me if he could have a jump. I said that if he crawled into the back of my pickup and drag the jump start battery, et.al. he could use it. His comment, He sure picked the right place/person to ask.
    bumpy


    That's another reason I carry one too.

    I won't jump anyone off my SUV, Truck or MH anymore. Too many computers on board today and you don't know what is wrong with the dead vehicle. And then people think your mean not wanting to help them.

    So with the jump-it on board I still CAN help others.
  • just received an email from Sam's club. evidently one of the jump start cables does not work right, doesn't prevent wrong hook up or some such, and is being replaced.
    bumpy
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    Bumpyroad wrote:
    saw a small jump starter, battery source, etc. at Lowe's and Sam's today. Lowe's was $80 and 10,000 mAH, with a 12 v 10 amp output, 400 amp carrier? 200 amp starter , the one at sam's was 7500 mah. didn't have the ones at sam's priced but the lady thought $50.
    If these things can actually charge a phone, etc. and in a pinch jump start a motor it would interest me. admittedly a 10,000 mAH would only be good for one try?
    any ideas?
    bumpy


    Quoted so I'd have it handy. Charge a Cell phone. Easily Start a Generator, Possibly Start a car That small I doubt it.

    I have had several of those very handy for many things AGM batteries.. 10 amp hours is kind of small (10,0000 mAH) and 200-400 amps likely will not crank up most cars (possibly a small 4 Banger) Might start an Onan genset (And on a motor home if you can start ye old ONAN you can )(Shortly after) start everything. (Don't ask how I know that, If you can't guess my telling you won't help).

    I eventually found 750 amps might work and a kilo-amp (1000) peak current worked very well. I think the ones I bought for the tow truck drivers were 950 amps peak.. That is what you need to look at for jump starting, the peak amps.

    For cell phone charging they all work well.. I also run a small fan/blower, Lights and other things with them.

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