Lippert TT Leveling System issues
We recently purchased a trailer with a Lippert TT Leveling system. We have been running RV’s in one form or another for over 4 decades, all have had manual leveling systems. This is our first with a...
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They make it overly complicated and this causes them to do weird things (and while not the end of the world, they aren't supposed to have tires of the ground).
I would prefer a simple system with an electronic level and 4 old school switches, so I could control front, back, left and right. It would still do it just as quick but with no brain to go haywire, it shouldn't do goofy things.
valhalla360 wrote:They make it overly complicated and this causes them to do weird things (and while not the end of the world, they aren't supposed to have tires of the ground).
I would prefer a simple system with an electronic level and 4 old school switches, so I could control front, back, left and right. It would still do it just as quick but with no brain to go haywire, it shouldn't do goofy things.
thats old school stabalizer jack thinking, if you are unlevel enough, side to side, you will have wheels off the ground with a frame leveling system, the only way to stop that is to use blocks under the tires to level it side to side first, or just not use sites that unlevel which I try to do. when you do a auto level it takes most of the weight off the tires anyways so the suspension isn't able to cause movment.
the good thing is you don't have to have it, buy a rv with out it if thats what you like, or never push the auto level button just run it in manual mode.
Manufacturer disagrees....they say no wheels of the ground.
Likewise stabilizers have never been recommended for leveling.
As far as buying...unless you special order...these systems are pretty much standard on all but the smallest 5ers and manual mode requires scrolling thru multiple menus.
It's technology for the sake of technology. A simple set of switches would be easier and more reliable.
weird because my manual I got with my 5th wheel showed me how to lift the wheels off the ground for maintainance and storage, and said it wasnt an issue to worry about. but af far as wheel off the ground goes you have to be pretty darn unlevel, I have only seen it in one campsite and I did put a complaint into the campground asking how they though a 6" sloap over 8 feet was ok for a camp site.
as for tech for the sake of teck, heck no, it is the best thing since sliced bread. setting up takes 1 minuit verses running around with a level adjusting this and that, and 5 min later your still not level and soaked with sweat from spinning the jacks, and befor you say use a inpack gun to turn them, you know how anoying that is to other people...
manual mode doesnt require any scrolling, you push the arrow padand you can do fronts back left and right side. to lift it requires you push the reverse button then user thoes same keys. yes if you want to split it to individual jacks you have to go through the menus, but I know I can bring the little remote out for mine and have access to individual jacks right off the bat if I want it. I usaly just use that for the slides though.
I just checked the manual and stopped at page 4. Page 2 and page 4 had warnings not to lift the tires off the ground.
First time I used it, I had already leveled side to side and it lifted the passenger side tires off the ground. I've also seen numerous posts on a Facebook group I'm on, where one of the front legs is off the ground.
I've only been able to get to manual mode by scrolling thru menus. I haven't been able to get the phone app to work.
"Likewise stabilizers have never been recommended for leveling."
Customer disagrees. Owners manual. "Ground Control TT Leveling System". Header on first page states "Leveling and Stabilization". On page one under features; "Fast, accurate automatic leveling". In Lipperts case, what the difference between Stabilizers and levelers?
the difference is a stabalize on older rv's that you manualy wind down are at the outside corners of your rv frame. they are not powerfull and are ment to be dropped only after you level side to side with blocks under the tires and front to back with the hitch jack. they are ment to take the bounce out and that is it.
these are not mounted at the end of the fram and if you have a longer rv (mine is on the boarder) you might need 6 jacks instead of 4) my fronts are rated for something stupid and the back are a little less, its works out to over twice the gvw of my 5th they can lift. but the placment of the rear jacks on a 4 jack system is slightly behind the rear wheels not at the far end so they are on strong points of the frame where there isn't flex, this is why they are able to actualy level instead of just stabalixe and take the tires out of the picture movement wise, they actualy lift the rv so the weight is almost off the tires in an ideal senario, in a less than ideal side to side they may lift a tire off the ground trying to get level.
