magnum hybrid inverter

Hi,

I see the hub can integrate the outback solar charge controller--which is also on my short list for a solar upgrade.

ISTR there was a post not that long ago from the magnum company guy with some details on just how it worked

This is where I got mine from:

Another GFX1312

They list it for $960, plus about $210 for the mate2.

It really does work really nice.

It was GBaxter to PT:

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Hi Pianotuna,

I will give it a try!

With the hybrid models (Victron, Magnum or the old Trace) they all need a voltage and frequency "source" to sync to in order to support the source. So in the case of say grid the hybrid model is in sync (voltage and frequency) with the grid and in order to stay connected and add any current it must follow the waveform of the grid. Since it has to follow the waveform if the voltage of the grid drops so does the hybrid voltage output in order to stay sync'd. If the grid voltage falls too much it will disconnect from the inverter but let's just say in this case the grid voltage drops but not too much.

If the inverter tried to raise it's output voltage in turn trying to raise the incoming grid voltage it would have to be able to change the waveform of the grid which would mean it would have to have enough power to support the incoming grid all the back to the source which it cannot it just doesn't have enough power to run a neighborhood or change the grid waveform.

So in short it just has to follow the grid (or generator) waveform for voltage and frequency but it can add current to the waveform which is exactly what it does.

So an example might be you are plugged into a 20A outlet/breaker and grid is 120 Vac / 60Hz and everything is fine. Then it starts getting hot and everyone in the park has a/c running. The grid voltage falls to 112 Vac but you still have 20A available just low voltage. You have your hybrid model set to 20A input so when you turn on your a/c and the microwave you are now drawing 30A or +10A over the 20A setting. You will be using 20A from the grid and the hybrid will add 10A from the batteries for a total of 30A so the 20A breaker doesn't trip on the pole. The voltage reading will still be 112 Vac but you just added 10A of current to the loads.

Gary

Hi BFL13,

Thanks for finding that. I'm now not sure I want any hybrid. At least with stand alone the voltage would be supported, which is what I was hoping to do.

pianotuna wrote:
Hi BFL13,

Thanks for finding that. I'm now not sure I want any hybrid. At least with stand alone the voltage would be supported, which is what I was hoping to do.

I think a standard inverter would serve you well and save you a few bucks too. I do think you should buy a standard Magnum cause IMO you need a heavy duty unit. If you need extra juice, just plug in your converter while running the rig from inverter. You could always upgrade to the 100A PF corrected Powermax.

Hi Mena,

I agree. A standard pure sine wave inverter will be cheaper and meet my needs.

As to a larger converter--that would be a good back up plan. At the moment, in a pinch, I could use the pd 40 amp, the Vector 40 amp, and the Harbor Freight 40 amp.

PT, I see the new flyer has Can Tire (Xantrex ?) 2000w MSW on sale for $149 :)

120 amps should just about run the air conditioner.

Hi BFL13,

I can successfully run the air conditioner on my Cobra 2500 watt MSW. I am reluctant to do so and wish to change to a pure sine wave. 3000 watts.