Members solar builds?
I thought there was numerous posts/photo's from the members and their solar builds? Where did they go?? Can't seem to find any doing the search dog function. Tia, Don
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Here is most of the updated info and equipment I have bought or made so far.
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4 Canadian Solar CS6P-230P Silver Frame PV panels,
With tilt bars for panels, for winter time use only, if needed.
I want to be able use these panels in the flat mounted position, if possible.
STC Power Rating 230W
PTC Power Rating 211W 1
STC Power per unit of area 13.3W/ft2 (143.0W/m2)
Peak Efficiency 14.3%
Power Tolerances 0%/+2%
Number of Cells 60
Imp 7.78A
Vmp 29.6V
Isc 8.34A
Voc 36.8V
NOCT 45°C
Temp. Coefficient of Power -0.43%/K
Temp. Coefficient of Voltage -0.125V/K
Series Fuse Rating 15A
Maximum System Voltage 600 Vistics
Type Polycrystalline Silicon
Output Terminal Type Multi Connector Type 4
Output Cable Wire Gauge 12 AWG, 2 ft long
Output Cable Wire Type PV Wire
Frame Color Clear
Length 64.5in
Width 38.7in
Depth 1.6in
Weight 44.1lb
Warranty and Certifications
80% Power Output Warranty Period 25yrs
90% Power Output Warranty Period 10yrs
Workmanship Warranty Period 6yrs
UL 1703 Fire Classification data not available
Compliance UL 1703
NOTE: I ordered 4 CS6P 220W PV,
But the company sent me CS6P 230W panels instead. When I checked back with them, on a possible mistake,
They stated that they did NOT have enough panels for my order, and they substituted the 230w panel instead,
for the 220w PV price, I had ordered.
The spec’s of the 220W panels were,
Voc 36.6V
Imp 7.72A
Vmp 29.3V
Isc 8.09A
All the other spec’s are the same.
PV wire total lengths to the CC :
Panel 1=22'
Panel 2=21'
Panel 3=20'
Panel 4=21'
I will use MC4 "branch couplers" with dielectric silicone grease, used for ALL connections.
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4 Costco 6v GC battery’s @ 220 A each = 450A total
I have not bought yet, as I want to get them all from the same production run,
and will use either the #3 or #4 diagram from the Smartgauge for battery connections,to have a balanced system.
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Morningstar’s MPPT Charge Controller: Tristar 60 Amp
Came with a meter/Remote Temp sensor for above and also have a Trimetric Battery meter.
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I got some amp usage readings for some of the electrical equipment on the TH.
Here is the info,
Water Pump = 3 amps (during the run cycle), used 1/2 hr max/per day? = 1.5 ah
Reefer = 2 amps when running (don't know the cycle yet) =24 ah
LPG Detector = .05 amps (constant on/24 per day) = 1.5 ah
CO Detector = .11 amps (constant on/24 hrs per day) = 2.65 ah
LED light panels (4/panels per light fixture) = .33 amps = 5 ah p/nite use,
Furnace = 9.1 amps per/5 minute cycle, = 72 ah
Using the 0* temps, (worst scenario conditions), see info below,
Other parasitic loads = 24 hr run time = 25Ah?
(Co2 Det, LPG, Frig, Thermostat, Water heater boards etc,
Total amp/hrs will be LESS than 140 for an average days use.
Furnace
Make: Suburban
Model: SF30F 30,000 BTU
The inside Coleman (analog) thermostat set at 55*, (lowest setting possible),
(this thermostat will be changed to a digital model, once I find the correct replacement model).
Turned on the furnace and the reading was 10.5A,
Which leveled out to 9.1A during running cycle.
.....................................
40* Outside air temps,
Run time= 5 min on
Off for 50 min's, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/60 min per hour * 8 hours = 6.1 A hr used for 8 hrs per night
………………….
30* O/S temps
On time = 5 min
Off time = 40 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/40 min per hour * 8 hours = 7.3 A hr per night
…………………………….
20* O/S temps (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On=5 min
Off= 30 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/30 min per hour * 8 hours = 12.1 A hr per night
……………………………
10* O/S temps, (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On 5 min
Off 10 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/10 min per hour * 8 hours = 35 A hr per night
…………………………..
Worst case scenario
0* O/S temps, (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On for 5 min
Off for 5 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/5 min per hour * 8 hours = 73 A Hr per night
I know from prior usage, the skirting will reduce the cycle times up to 50%,
in the extreme Cold weather etc once it is set up.
-------------------------------------------------------------
The pending battery bay underneath the TH measures,
65" long x 48" wide and 18/20" high/deep.
I have the plans to make a HD welded battery rack that will support the battery's weight,
once the amount can be figured out, the battery temps will above 40+* due to the skirting use.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Have an OEM 4000w gen set installed,
and 2- 2000w Honda gen sets,
As extras as needed.
------------------------------------------------------------
The battery's (2-90w 12v Deep cycle) OEM on the tongue,
will be a separate system that is charged via the gen set and
OEM Progressive Dynamics (PD 9260) 60 Amp power converter with charge wizard
As set up now, the OEM set up will not be changed in any way.
These tongue battery's will be used for ANYTHING required,
Mainly the trolling motor for fishing, but can used as a backup system for the TH/TV,
If anything goes wrong.
All wiring resistance losses will be built for 3% or less.
Tia,
Don
Here is most of the updated info and equipment I have bought or made so far.
-----------------------------------
4 Canadian Solar CS6P-230P Silver Frame PV panels,
With tilt bars for panels, for winter time use only, if needed.
I want to be able use these panels in the flat mounted position, if possible.
STC Power Rating 230W
PTC Power Rating 211W 1
STC Power per unit of area 13.3W/ft2 (143.0W/m2)
Peak Efficiency 14.3%
Power Tolerances 0%/+2%
Number of Cells 60
Imp 7.78A
Vmp 29.6V
Isc 8.34A
Voc 36.8V
NOCT 45°C
Temp. Coefficient of Power -0.43%/K
Temp. Coefficient of Voltage -0.125V/K
Series Fuse Rating 15A
Maximum System Voltage 600 Vistics
Type Polycrystalline Silicon
Output Terminal Type Multi Connector Type 4
Output Cable Wire Gauge 12 AWG, 2 ft long
Output Cable Wire Type PV Wire
Frame Color Clear
Length 64.5in
Width 38.7in
Depth 1.6in
Weight 44.1lb
Warranty and Certifications
80% Power Output Warranty Period 25yrs
90% Power Output Warranty Period 10yrs
Workmanship Warranty Period 6yrs
UL 1703 Fire Classification data not available
Compliance UL 1703
NOTE: I ordered 4 CS6P 220W PV,
But the company sent me CS6P 230W panels instead. When I checked back with them, on a possible mistake,
They stated that they did NOT have enough panels for my order, and they substituted the 230w panel instead,
for the 220w PV price, I had ordered.
The spec’s of the 220W panels were,
Voc 36.6V
Imp 7.72A
Vmp 29.3V
Isc 8.09A
All the other spec’s are the same.
PV wire total lengths to the CC :
Panel 1=22'
Panel 2=21'
Panel 3=20'
Panel 4=21'
I will use MC4 "branch couplers" with dielectric silicone grease, used for ALL connections.
--------------------------------------------------------
4 Costco 6v GC battery’s @ 220 A each = 450A total
I have not bought yet, as I want to get them all from the same production run,
and will use either the #3 or #4 diagram from the Smartgauge for battery connections,to have a balanced system.
------------------------------------------------------
Morningstar’s MPPT Charge Controller: Tristar 60 Amp
Came with a meter/Remote Temp sensor for above and also have a Trimetric Battery meter.
------------------------------------------------------
I got some amp usage readings for some of the electrical equipment on the TH.
Here is the info,
Water Pump = 3 amps (during the run cycle), used 1/2 hr max/per day? = 1.5 ah
Reefer = 2 amps when running (don't know the cycle yet) =24 ah
LPG Detector = .05 amps (constant on/24 per day) = 1.5 ah
CO Detector = .11 amps (constant on/24 hrs per day) = 2.65 ah
LED light panels (4/panels per light fixture) = .33 amps = 5 ah p/nite use,
Furnace = 9.1 amps per/5 minute cycle, = 72 ah
Using the 0* temps, (worst scenario conditions), see info below,
Other parasitic loads = 24 hr run time = 25Ah?
(Co2 Det, LPG, Frig, Thermostat, Water heater boards etc,
Total amp/hrs will be LESS than 140 for an average days use.
Furnace
Make: Suburban
Model: SF30F 30,000 BTU
The inside Coleman (analog) thermostat set at 55*, (lowest setting possible),
(this thermostat will be changed to a digital model, once I find the correct replacement model).
Turned on the furnace and the reading was 10.5A,
Which leveled out to 9.1A during running cycle.
.....................................
40* Outside air temps,
Run time= 5 min on
Off for 50 min's, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/60 min per hour * 8 hours = 6.1 A hr used for 8 hrs per night
………………….
30* O/S temps
On time = 5 min
Off time = 40 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/40 min per hour * 8 hours = 7.3 A hr per night
…………………………….
20* O/S temps (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On=5 min
Off= 30 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/30 min per hour * 8 hours = 12.1 A hr per night
……………………………
10* O/S temps, (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On 5 min
Off 10 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/10 min per hour * 8 hours = 35 A hr per night
…………………………..
Worst case scenario
0* O/S temps, (N wind blowing solid 10 mph, gusts to 20+mph,
(DID not figure Wind Chill effect)
On for 5 min
Off for 5 min, then recycled
9.1 amps * 5 min/5 min per hour * 8 hours = 73 A Hr per night
I know from prior usage, the skirting will reduce the cycle times up to 50%,
in the extreme Cold weather etc once it is set up.
-------------------------------------------------------------
The pending battery bay underneath the TH measures,
65" long x 48" wide and 18/20" high/deep.
I have the plans to make a HD welded battery rack that will support the battery's weight,
once the amount can be figured out, the battery temps will above 40+* due to the skirting use.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Have an OEM 4000w gen set installed,
and 2- 2000w Honda gen sets,
As extras as needed.
------------------------------------------------------------
The battery's (2-90w 12v Deep cycle) OEM on the tongue,
will be a separate system that is charged via the gen set and
OEM Progressive Dynamics (PD 9260) 60 Amp power converter with charge wizard
As set up now, the OEM set up will not be changed in any way.
These tongue battery's will be used for ANYTHING required,
Mainly the trolling motor for fishing, but can used as a backup system for the TH/TV,
If anything goes wrong.
All wiring resistance losses will be built for 3% or less.
Tia,
Don
