Mercedes ditching diesels in North America
Here is a blurb about this. Is this meaning that Sprinters will be made with gasoline engines, or pulled out of the market completely?
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- EPA is the reason. Our regs are tougher than Europe's.
A long time ago EPA appointed and elected officials declared a goal of eliminating diesels from the road.
B20 has less energy but higher lubricity. It attracts water more easily and microbes love it, pus in cold weather (it wants to separate, with any hint off water and goes down hill from there.) I will have to check to reafirm this point.)
We wouldn't have it despite the EPA's war on Fossil fuels,and Bio Diesel as well as Ethanol Corporate Farms and their lobbies spending billions to get it mandated in fuel and subsidize their production too.
Legislating Profits is what they have done. Our taxes and higher prices, and problems with fuel and expensive engines be damned.
Welfare for Alternative Fuel Billionares, and hugely increased cost for Engiens and fuel systems and maintenance or Americans. down home wrote:
EPA is the reason. Our regs are tougher than Europe's.
A long time ago EPA appointed and elected officials declared a goal of eliminating diesels from the road.
B20 has less energy but higher lubricity. It attracts water more easily and microbes love it, pus in cold weather (it wants to separate, with any hint off water and goes down hill from there.) I will have to check to reafirm this point.)
We wouldn't have it despite the EPA's war on Fossil fuels,and Bio Diesel as well as Ethanol Corporate Farms and their lobbies spending billions to get it mandated in fuel and subsidize their production too.
Legislating Profits is what they have done. Our taxes and higher prices, and problems with fuel and expensive engines be damned.
Welfare for Alternative Fuel Billionares, and hugely increased cost for Engiens and fuel systems and maintenance or Americans.
B20 has so close to the energy content of summer #2 that you won't notice any difference in performance. I've run B20 off and on and never noticed any difference in performance or mileage. and it has better lubricity. and B20 has a higher cetane rating that #2.
Unlike E10, which is an entirely different story.
as for water etc. that I don't know.garyemunson wrote:
This troubles me a great deal. You see, I don't fall into the regualr type of guy that uses vehicles for back and fort to work and such catagory.
Having driven an electric car for 6 years now and just recently added solar panels to my house to charge it for free, I guarantee you internal combustion engines are dead men walking. Even worse, self driving cars are going to take us right out of the drivers seat!
I like to go off the beaten path. Far from pavement and the infrastructure that will support EVs.
I surely hope that the world doesn't change so that I must give up my lifestyle.
I NEED the ICE to be around at an affordable rate for the next 30 years or so.
Perhaps whan the EV subsidies peter out, some sort of reality and balance will prevail.mountainkowboy wrote:
If the EPA would pull there head out, we would see more diesel powered vehicles like Europe.
I think Europe has new regs coming which will wipe out diesel cars.Chris Bryant wrote:
IMHO, the internal combustion engine only has around 10 years left- battery breakthroughs will mean greater range and fast charging- like the latest patent Fisker filed, 500 mile range, recharge in a few minutes.
Always keep in mind electric motors generate full torque at stall.
I take anything Fisker claims with a large dose of skeptisism..after all he went bankrupt once or twice already,,and if the battery will be ready in 2023 why cant he prove it works as claimed now..
Asking for 2000$ deposit on something that far down the road smells like Scam..free radical wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
IMHO, the internal combustion engine only has around 10 years left- battery breakthroughs will mean greater range and fast charging- like the latest patent Fisker filed, 500 mile range, recharge in a few minutes.
Always keep in mind electric motors generate full torque at stall.
I take anything Fisker claims with a large dose of skeptisism..after all he went bankrupt once or twice already,,and if the battery will be ready in 2023 why cant he prove it works as claimed now..
Asking for 2000$ deposit on something that far down the road smells like Scam..
to recharge a car with a 500 mile range in a "few " minutes is NOT going to happen at your house. And even at a dedicated station the amount of power needed for that fast a charge is extremely high. Even 30 minutes requires a very high current draw from a 480V line.garyemunson wrote:
Having driven an electric car for 6 years now and just recently added solar panels to my house to charge it for free, I guarantee you internal combustion engines are dead men walking. Even worse, self driving cars are going to take us right out of the drivers seat!
Adding solar panels for free electricity????? WHO is installing those panels for FREE? There is ALWAYS a COST. The Panels are not cheap. Then you have to maintain the system and replace any panels that get damaged. While solar is neat, it is NOT free. Self driving cars? Yea, right. There is ALWAYS an undetermined factor on all electronics. The self driving systems can never factor in all abberations that can happen. I am glad the odds are I will not live long enough to see the problems when people assume the computers will be able to do all things on the road. Doug
Have you ever seen the power grid setup in THOUSANDS of small towns across the UNITED STATES?
TRILLIONS of dollars in grid upgrades and expansions will have to be PAID FOR BY YOU in order to make electro motive vehicles a viable total replacement for internal combustion engines. Many people have no idea whatsoever the ramifications for the existing electrical grid nationwide.- Where is all of that power going to come from? Solar and windmills aren't going to be able to meet that kind of demand. Dams, coal and nuclear are out of the question anymore. To switch from petroleum to electric is going to more than double our power needs. Here in central California, I pay over $400 a month for power just to keep my house at 76 degrees in the summer. PG&E is charging an arm and a leg because instead of building new EFFICIENT power production, they are trying to control growth of demand by forcing people to conserve with price. More and more homes here are installing solar, but the demand is still growing. Adding electric cars into the equation is really going to stink!
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I'm lucky in that I can sit back and wince at what the newspaper accounts are going to say. The reality slap is going to be a real ***** (I add my own ***'s)
