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Almot
Mar 30, 2014Explorer III
Unyalli wrote:
What's missing in both the Rogue for $375 and the TS-30 for $477 that the Kid for $349 gives you is the Wizbang functionality.
Yes and no. All 3 controllers allow a wired remote display. The question is - how necessary this is, i.e. how bad is a built-in display (optional in Trimetric). Also - how good is a remote display.
I wrote in other posts that don't feel any need in a remote display or monitor like Trimetric, - this is difficult to understand for somebody who haven't seen Rogue 3048. It has a 4-line built-in display that provides all the data that one might ever need. There is current and volts and watts in/out, temperature, charging stage (MPPT/Abs/Float), and whether MPPT is on or it's running in Bulk because there is not enough current. All at the same time, no need to switch between the screens like in Kid. Here it is, page 5
When the day is over, Rogue 3048 displays peak watts achieved for the day, total Kwh and Ah in, whether Absorption was reached and how much time it spend in there, whether Float was reached and how much time it spend in there. The log has 30 days maximum, i.e. when 31st day comes, the 1st (the oldest) entry is erased. Log accessed from the front panel with push of a button. Here is the photo of day #5 (not mine), you can see that Abs was not reached on that day:
And here the report on testing a beta-version of Kid, with photos.
Good news for Kid is that it can do a current-based Absorption, if you buy an optional shunt. Which brings it closer to Rogue.
I disagree with what they say about heat sink of Rogue being at the back. True, heat dissipation is usually better when heat sink is up front, but the tester didn't see Rogue in flesh. its heat sink is not "back against the wall" but has about half-inch space behind the heat sink, so it works similarly to ventilation in fridges with passive condenser, the draft caused by thermal up-flow. Old and efficient technique in heat engineering.
There can be situations when remote display is a must due to controller placement, and then comparison would be different.
What Marc said about remote monitoring (wireless? via laptop?) - I have no opinion in this matter. Rogue has more functions in firmware than I may ever need, haven't even learned all of them yet. I recall it allows monitoring via laptop, and this would provide yet more data than a built-in or remote display.
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