nomad297 wrote:
I don't think a frost-free hosebib will work in this situation.  Does your inside shutoff not have a bleed cap?  It should.  Look for a small knurled cap on the side of the valve.  If there is one, unscrew it to break the vacuum in the pipe.
Bruce
You are correct.
 A frost free hose bib won't help clear the pipe of water.
And no the shutoff is one of those little ones like we have in our trailers with no drain.
 I was hoping some plumber had some method that we do-it yourselfers don't know about.
 I'll probably just end up putting in a quest coupling right after the shutoff and just disconnect that each year which should break the vacuum
Jack L
Jack L