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HiTech
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May 24, 2013

Positive Grid Corrosion

So getting ready to put some more float charge into the AGMs in prep for a 500w+ load test this weekend, I floated a little water over the valves. Battery was warm at 87 degrees. I have been waiting until they cool off to add BTUs. Sitting there...I heard...occasional bubbling? Open circuit?

So the only thing I know about so far that is supposed to be going on in a nearly charged battery is positive plate corrosion, that can act as a counter to self discharge in AGMs. So hmm how's that work.

Oh.

Lead plus water = electrons plus....hydrogen. Under no charge. Just sitting there oxidizing.

Floating in a very narrow temperature-corrected voltage range minimizes the corrosion. Letting the battery sit. Charging it. Floating it a few tenths off - they all radically accelerate positive grid corrosion.

In an AGM, seems like this would throw off the stoichiometeric ratio needed for the gasses to recombine into water internally.

Hmmmm. Have not found anything in the literature about THAT yet. So either I am way off, or I am searching on the wrong terms. Well there's always that 250 page (literally) PhD dissertation I have been meaning to read on how to properly determine float voltage...

Jim
  • Hi Jim,

    Sounds as if you have been "dancing on the needles" a bit too much.
  • Could be sulfation. There is always some while they sit on the shelf. But I would not think it would cause bubbling? I don't think the chemical reaction for sulfate on includes gas molecules on the output.

    Jim
  • Just an idea, could it be sulfation?

    In my stick house I have two AGM battery banks (200 AH at 48 volts nominal each). One of the eight batteries is weird. If I disconnect one set of four 12 volters in series, I can then put my 8 amp BatteryMINDer on them one battery at a time. System switched to use other bank to prevent any interference issues. All seven batteries show no problems doing this. One battery will show a yellow light indicating sulfation.

    If I let the BatteryMINDer do its thing for a few days on that battery, it seems to get repaired. This is easily verified by the resting voltage of that bank when it is switched in, in place of the other bank.

    For some reason I need to let my BatteryMINDer repair the sulfation (?) in that same battery about once a year.

    I could of course just replace all four 12 volt 200 AH batteries, but that is about $1000. I'd rather use my BatteryMINDer once a year to "fix" it.

    Maybe your issue?

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