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MarkieBob
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Dec 04, 2013

Rand McNally 7725 GPS--like it?

I should have posted before jumping to the camping world sale, but I ordered the unit. OK--now tell me if I should quickly return it, or is it good? The only post I found said they didn't like it.

Are the new ones good? Thanks folks, Mark
  • There are at least two options, sometimes four, when you go to select a POI for RV parks.

    My RV and City

    My RV - the GPS will look near your RV (the last location the unit received from the satellites - learned that when I take any GPS on a plane trip - let it find its location after driving out of the rental car agency parking garage - otherwise it starts giving me directions from Dallas. Garmin did that in Phoenix which going to the GC).

    If you select City - the GPS will search near the city location - however it shows the distance as being from the GPS/RV location.

    Are you located at home in WA?

    If I search for something near Whidbey Island - it's going show the state parks as being 1,700 miles away from my present location - not 1,700 miles away from the NAS.
  • thanx pawpaw. Yeah, I went outside for clearer view of satellites and it did find my location (near my home, yes). Then the mileages were right, but it still won't find Fort Casey State park near Coupeville, WA. Check it out on yours if you want. I'll now try downloading as you suggest. Mark
  • I did some checking my RND 7725LM and on a Garmin 1490 LMT. Both with the latest updates.

    If I set the Garmin to show POI under "Recreation" and "Park or Garden" - shows the following state parks near Coupeville, WA:
    Fort Casey State Park Tidelands
    Fort Ebey State Park
    Fort Casey State Park
    Keystone Split State Park

    It doesn't show any more distant than 6 miles - because that category also includes all city and county parks in the area without campgrounds.

    Under POI "Lodging" "Campground or RV Park" - no state parks are shown though it shows many commercial parks within 20 miles.

    I tell the Garmin to search on the words "State Park" near Coupeville, WA it shows:
    Fort Casey State Park Tidelands
    Fort Ebey State Park
    Fort Casey State Park
    Keystone Spit State Park
    Fort Worden State Park
    Joseph Whidbey State Park
    For Worden State Park (listed twice)
    Fort Flager State Park
    Cama Beach State Park
    Dugualla State Park
    Camano Island State Park
    Old Fort Townsend State Park
    Mystery Bay State Park
    South Whidbey State Park
    Deception Pass State Park (5 listings)
    Miller Peninsula State Park
    Anderson Lake State Park
    Iron Horst State Park
    Wenberg State Park
    Sequim Bay State Park

    All within 20 miles of the Coupeville starting location (I do realize that in that area - 20 miles straight line distance might be 150 driving miles).

    With the Rand GS GPS if I search for POI near Coupeville - RV Campgrounds - State Parks - it lists:
    Fort Worden State Park
    Fort Flagler State Park
    Deception Pass State Park
    Sequim Bay State Park
    and several others more distant.

    If I search for POI near Coupeville - Rand McNally Editors Picks - National & State Parks - it lists:
    Ebey's Landing National Historical Preserve
    Fort Worden State Park
    Fort Flagler State Park
    Camano Island State Park
    South Whidbey State Park
    Deception Pass State Park
    Wenberg State Park
    Sequim Bay State Park

    I do find Fort Casey State Park Tidelands and Fort Casey State Park if I go to Other POI - All and spell Fort Casey to search.

    Neither has any additional notes/ information about camping being available.

    One of the selling points of the GPS is that it uses the Woodalls/ Good Sam directory for RV Park information.

    If I go to the Good Sam website and do Plan A Trip - Find a Campground - Coupeville, WA - it lists:
    Fort Casey
    Fort Ebey
    Fort Worden
    Fort Flagler
    Camano Island
    South Whidbey
    Old Fort Townsend
    Deception Pass
    Wenberg State Park (the only one with a State Park in the name)
    Sequim Bay

    I don't have a Woodalls Directory - but I do have the Woodalls app on my phone. If I search for parks near Coupeville - it lists:
    Fort Casey State Park
    Fort Ebey State Park
    Fort Flagler State Park
    Fort Worden State Park
    Camano Island State Park
    South Whidbey Island State Park
    Old Fort Townsend State Park
    Deception Pass State Park
    Wenberg State Park
    Sequim Bay State Park

    When I look at the state parks data in the notes section of each park I find on the Rand GPS - it is obvious that the data is old, and incomplete. And does not match either the Good Sam web site information or the Woodall's app information. The Woodall's information is very lacking.


    I've submitted this as a bad listing with the Tell Rand feature. The more people who do so, the faster it will get fixed.
  • We have about 20,000 miles on ours and love it. It's not perfect but we are very happy with it.
  • PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
    I did some checking my RND 7725LM and on a Garmin 1490 LMT. Both with the latest updates.

    ...

    When I look at the state parks data in the notes section of each park I find on the Rand GPS - it is obvious that the data is old, and incomplete. And does not match either the Good Sam web site information or the Woodall's app information. The Woodall's information is very lacking.


    I've submitted this as a bad listing with the Tell Rand feature. The more people who do so, the faster it will get fixed.


    Thanks for taking the time to give a detailed analysis. I'm sure it will help others decide which products meet their needs.

    :)
  • But remember - the Garmin is a nice, normal GPS - it has no RV oriented features.

    Also, all GPS are only as good as the source data. Most highway data in the US comes from the same source and is based on information from the state highway department.

    My home town (600 people in Arkansas) had a railroad track through the middle of town. For some reason, the former state highway, now US highway, which made 2 90 degree turns to cross the railroad is in most mapping software on a very small, almost alley sized, street, not the actual main road.

    Whenever someone sees a big truck, a FedEx or UPS driver, or an out of state plates passenger car turning on to that street, we know they are following a GPS.

    Every GPS or mapping program I've owned or seen has this error, including AAA, MS Streets & Trips, Bing Maps, Google Maps, etc.

    RV GPS units are really not much different from a regular GPS. Yes, they should have an added calculation process to avoid low bridges and tight turns based on the RV size we enter in the unit. And that data is of course only as good as the source information - if a low bridge isn't in the database - the GPS won't protect you.

    The organization of the POI makes using a GPS much easier.

    Finding a COE or state park on the Garmin auto GPS is a real pain because they are lumped in with community parks.

    That the Rand has campgrounds listed by:
    1) All Campgrounds
    2) Commercial (Good Sam Reviewed) Campgrounds
    3) State Parks
    4) National Parks
    5) National Forests
    6) Corps of Engineers
    7) Bureau of Land Management
    8) County Parks
    9) Military Campgrounds

    Is a really big help.

    With the Good Sam Reviewed category, I can filter that list to show only CG with 44 different features. The one I'd use most is to make the list show only CG with 50Amp service and Propane refills on site. Others would have other options. Such as only Good Sam parks, Big Rig Friendly with pull thru spots and an on-site laundry.

    I hope someday to be able to filter the government parks by hookup categories. The additional information part of the parks is also very useful.

    I like the Rand "Quick Stops" option which works for us. But some folks would find that the six standard buttons - Flying J, Loves Travel Stops, Pilot, TA/Petro, Walmart and Wilco(Hess) - as useless. It is also a prime advertising potential.

    Having the RV Services section for Dump Stations is nice, though I haven't HAD to use it yet.

    But as we discussed above - these categories and service listings are only as good as the source data. I do like the ability to submit errors, additional information directly to Rand. I haven't seen that on another GPS, but I'm not willing to say the other companies don't have that feedback capability.

    This is a developing market - it will only get better if we, the users, let the companies know what we like, what we don't like and help them get better.

    The other critical point to always remember is that a GPS is advisory. Never, Never trust one to be perfect. Know where you are going, watch the clearance signs - especially on small side roads. And if it looks like the GPS is trying to take you the wrong way - STOP and check a map.

    The internet is a wonderful tool, but if we carry our complaints only on forums - they get as much changed as the old barber shop did back when I was young.
  • WOW--thanks pawpaw for all your work! Seriously! We do appreciate it. I am finishing our Christmas tree choose and cut farm now, so will have more time to research it better.

    I agree that GPS are a tool, not a "bible" to follow. I once saw a guy with a scratched up side to a nice MH who followed a GPS that led to a one lane road with trees that did it to the side (he couldn't turn around).

    I am concerned,though, that this Good Sam unit would not find those state parks and find others in the same area. All these parks have been there a LONG time. And you say the Rand data is old for state parks--well, like I said I'm concerned that Fort Casey (very popular), which is a very old park, wouldn't be in even a dated database. If I were not acquainted with what parks are available in a given area, I would totally miss Fort Casey as an option. I just wonder how many other areas are missing key state parks, or other parks for that matter.

    Again, thanks pawpaw for your input--it's not the consumer's fault a product isn't performing as advertised.

    Will I keep mine? I have 25 more days to decide before the 30 day return policy is over. I try it out.

    Oh BTW, I also clicked the tell Rand button about missing Fort Casey

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