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deandec
Explorer
Jun 03, 2014

Removeing Ignition solenoid from circuit temporarily

Hello.

My rig is stuck in an inappropriate place and I want to move it without involving towing.

The engine starts, but there is no power to the dash fuses initiated by the ignition switch.

One of those fused dash items is the Allison MD3060 shift console.

Hence I cannot shift the transmission.

If I bypass the ignition solenoid and get direct power to the fuses, I think I can use the shifter and drive the rig to a safe destination.

The solenoid has two ignition wires a small jumper resistor between a ground wire and the ignition wires, and a negative link to the fuses as well as a connect of two negative cables.

I would connect the the negative link for the fuses to the two joined negative cables and bypass the solenoid in order to move the rig about a 10 minute drive.

Once parked, I would disconnect the chassis battery and then the cables until I sourced a new solenoid.

Am I creating a monster or is it really that simple?

4 Replies

  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
    Explorer II
    Your stuff is probably more complex than this, but Radio Shack offers a Bosch style (cube-like) relay for a few dollars with a 12V coil and 40A contacts. The "real" Bosch is SPDT (with both Normally Open and Normally Closed contacts). The one 'Shack currently sells seems to be SPST (unless I did the acronym wrong) without the Normally Closed contacts.

    The little component across the Relay is more likely a Diode than a Resistor. When a magnetic field (like a relay coil) collapses (you de-energized the relay), a "back EMF" surges out. This is how the old Points/Condenser ignition worked - the coil fired when the points Opened, breaking a circuit, not when they made up and charged the system. Anyhow, that Spike can be distressing around other solid-state devices and adding a Diode keeps the spike out of the rest of the circuit. So, if a generic relay works for you, you can add the Diode yourself, again a Radio Shack item.
  • Gjac's avatar
    Gjac
    Explorer III
    Glad you moved it to a safe place. Finding a replacement can sometimes be a chore. I have had both my chassis and house solenoids fail on the road. Took a while to find the replacements. Good luck.
  • Well, it worked!

    But I had to wire open the shut down solenoid and run without headlights. Got the rig to a much safer place.

    Guess I answered my own question, but sometimes writing the problem down sheds light on a possible answer.
  • If it works, no problem as long as you and you alone operate it. Bypassing Safety devices in an emergence is acceptable to me as long as you are prepared and understand the consequence.
    For instance I can use a paper clip to short the seat safety switch on my craftsman mower and the motor will continue to run with the brake off and me out of the drivers seat. Never used that trick but if mower was stuck I could get off and push if needed with it in low gear and the bladed OFF. Ignition switch would stop it if needed.
    I DO NOT recommend this for anyone though.

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