Simply Stunning Solar Farm Image (Image Is HUGE!)

MDKMDK wrote:
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/images/charts/primary_energy_production_by_major_source.png
The train is still in the station. No rush. :C

Your chart is for all forms of energy consumption, not just electrical generation.

Here is the breakdown, from the same source.

There are people out there that get vile when you try to tell them that just because a Tesla has no tailpipe it doesnt mean it's zero emission. There isnt a great deal of difference in pollution between ice an ev when measured from well to wheel. Some say that ev is actually worse. They also cant grasp that the majority of the energy is coming from coal and nat gas. These are the people who burn down houses and apt building while they are being built. They also dont realize where that trash can full of iv bags, hoses, gloves and other medical stuff come from during the stomach check that I just had done.

An ice gets more effecient as it's fuel tank empties, an EV is still hauling around a 1200 pound carcus as it empties.

drsteve wrote:

MDKMDK wrote:
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/images/charts/primary_energy_production_by_major_source.png
The train is still in the station. No rush. :C

Your chart is for all forms of energy consumption, not just electrical generation.

Here is the breakdown, from the same source.

No. My chart was for all forms of energy production, not consumption. Responding to the small portion provided by renewables compared to the rest. They're barely ahead of hydro-electric. Look again.

azrving wrote:
There are people out there that get vile when you try to tell them that just because a Tesla has no tailpipe it doesnt mean it's zero emission. There isnt a great deal of difference in pollution between ice an ev when measured from well to wheel. Some say that ev is actually worse. They also cant grasp that the majority of the energy is coming from coal and nat gas.

Even powered 100% on coal the EV is cleaner. Need to check the efficiency of the coal plant at about 60% to the ICE engine of about 30%. Personally my solar produces more than my vehicle consumes.

If 80% of the motor vehicles on earth are still hydrocarbon fueled forty years from now, please explain to me what has been gained.

Mexico
Brasil
Argentina
Venezuela

Will not be electricity transported. India? Surely you jest. Nigeria? Kenya? Australia? Right! 10,000 miles of powerlines to fuel road trains and cattle stations.

The objective is to clean up the air not die of bleeding-out from stabbing a hundred "feel-good badges" into one's chest.

jplante4 wrote:
All that sunlight not warming the earth. OMG it will be global cooling!

Maybe not, with heat reflected back to atmosphere. Warm weather begins with warm air. Effect of large-scale solar farms on climate has not been studied well yet. Water circulation from earth to air and back to earth is also affected, and so is plant growth. If anything, the total effect of shading will not be positive. Atmosphere pollution is different thing though.

It's like crutches - you lose one leg, get crutches, more stress on the rest of the body, can't walk too far and easy to fall and break bones. Should've taken care of environment earlier. Give people more condoms.

ndrorder wrote:
4ish square miles of power equivalent to 1/5ish the power from a single natural gas fired power plant on less than 1ish square mile. Our future?

The problem is we miss the boat.. Folks complain that sun loveing things that make oxygen do not thrive under the panels (in the shade) (True Making O2 takes Sun) but why have we not panaled our roofs. Over our roads and parking lots and the sun facing sides of buildings. Any how many square miles of DEAD SPACE (By dead I mean nothing green and oxygen producing grows there) that is exposed to the sun every day?

(THe math, or rather the data upon which to perform the math, is above my pay grade).

I have suggested to some folks roofing our freeways with Solar Roofs.
Cut down on accidents caused by Sun Glare
Cut down on Snow on the road (And rain)

PRovide support for a "Soft light" system that makes it basiclly day on the freeways 24x7 but not so bright as to disturb what is NOT on the freeway. Lots of advantages. .and not one square inch of Green Space shaded.

Two things.
First. A farm is a place that produce food.
Second. Michigan ranks 47th out of the 48 continental states. Yet companies come here from out of state and want to build tracks of solar panels, then sell them to our local electric companies which will demand a raise in rates charged to electric users.
Why not build build them in states that have a much higher rates of sunshine?

That would be ungovernmental of them

Others may also remember this, back when I was in high school they were saying the glaciers would soon move down and cover everything. They now also say that moving from animal production would make a huge impact in emissions. No, not the animal fart thing but all the resources that go into eating meat. It was mentioned in a financial article where they are working on ways to grow meat and one method that uses a fermintation process like brewing beer. People have already moved to many products such as almond or rice milk etc.

No, I'm not saying dont eat meat, I was just reading it while looking at investment oportunities. They also say some young people want everything sealed in plastic or they dont feel its safe or clean. Maybe they are the same ones who would ban OIL!! Duuuhhh lol