Some EV charging considerations…

Another chest-thumping EV thread gets closed.

3 tons wrote:
Believe whatever source you choose, but I doubt few folks would seriously count the EPA (or several other 3 letter agencies in today’s news…) as an ‘objectified repository’ - sadly, the same politically staffed Agency that (under the color of law) has left us with many environmental fubars - here’s just one of many:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/epa-chief-apologizes-for-toxic-spill-affecting-rivers-in-colorado-new-mexico-1439321379#:~:text=An%20EPA%20cleanup%20crew%20on%20Aug.%205%20accidentally,system%20that%20also%20spans%20New%20Mexico%20and%20Utah.

3 tons

As we all suspected. And talk diverted and deflected into something else when caught with the pants down.

pianotuna wrote:
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Most EVs are within 100 feet of the main charging source vs more than a mile for an ice.

How many ice cars burn up per year? Only 150,000.

statistical sources, please.

I see they mention the Volt, which is not a Bev.

My choice would be the Sono in 2024. (That's when my tires age out.)

Most EVs are within 100 feet of the main charging source vs more than a mile for an ice.

How many ice cars burn up per year? Only 150,000.

"In April, Ford said average dwell time for a Mach-E on dealership lots was a fairly short seven days, and that most sales were to customers coming from competitor brands."

Believe whatever source you choose, but I doubt few folks would seriously count the EPA (or several other 3 letter agencies in today’s news…) as an ‘objectified repository’ - sadly, the same politically staffed Agency that (under the color of law) has left us with many environmental fubars - here’s just one of many:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/epa-chief-apologizes-for-toxic-spill-affecting-rivers-in-colorado-new-mexico-1439321379#:~:text=An%20EPA%20cleanup%20crew%20on%20Aug.%205%20accidentally,system%20that%20also%20spans%20New%20Mexico%20and%20Utah.

3 tons

3 tons wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Well said @jdc1. I can't add anymore to it with your well reasoned and fact-based post.

Feel-good for purchasing an EV. Ask those who have one how happy they are and what's their next car will be or what they'll upgrade into. Hint: Never ever an ICE.

Ha, Glad to know you’re feeling good Sir - You’d likely get the same short-term endorphin rush (but at a cheaper price…) by simply getting yourself a shiny new Rolex :)….However the reality is that I don’t in any way disparage the idea of EV’s so long as they can be scientifically supported by an objective ‘net reduction in carbon’ (i.e. energy) study, without such the EV foundation is fatally flawed, thus you might consider refusing a so-called ‘green tax credit’ (sadly, paid for by one’s own hard working neighbors)…

3 tons

Lucky for you, there have been a number of such studies. A recent one is available here.

3 tons wrote:

Ha, Glad to know you’re feeling good Sir - You’d likely get the same short-term endorphin rush (but at a cheaper price…) by simply getting yourself a shiny new Rolex :)

Find me a Rolex that can pull my trailer or I can put a camper cab on and being powered by EV and I'll consider it.

And please, good sir, research whereof you speak. This from our own EPA, unless you are in the anti-Fauci anti-science camp.

Yes, there can be charging bottlenecks. But the exception does not make the rule (or the majority of cases).

EV Myths

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
Well said @jdc1. I can't add anymore to it with your well reasoned and fact-based post.

Feel-good for purchasing an EV. Ask those who have one how happy they are and what's their next car will be or what they'll upgrade into. Hint: Never ever an ICE.

Ha, Glad to know you’re feeling good Sir - You’d likely get the same short-term endorphin rush (but at a cheaper price…) by simply getting yourself a shiny new Rolex :)….However the reality is that I don’t in any way disparage the idea of EV’s so long as they can be scientifically supported by an objective ‘net reduction in carbon’ (i.e. energy) study, without such the EV foundation is fatally flawed, thus you might consider refusing a so-called ‘green tax credit’ (sadly, paid for by one’s own hard working neighbors)…

3 tons

Well said @jdc1. I can't add anymore to it with your well reasoned and fact-based post.

Feel-good for purchasing an EV. Ask those who have one how happy they are and what's their next car will be or what they'll upgrade into. Hint: Never ever an ICE.

“Better World”?….Again, you’ll likely not find anyone who’s against a “better world” but we’ll need far more than platitudes to get there - My buddy has 7kw of solar panels on his roof and a firewall, but Lord only knows (because of lack of interest or even a modicum of enquiry…) the amount of ‘net energy’ consumed (say compared to uber abundant natural gas) OR ‘net carbon’ produced during their manufacture, or the eventual waste created at end of life cycle…Oop’s I almost forgot, “it’s a settled science” - lol on that faux premiss!!…Either way, we can’t dismiss the costly redesign of the grid that’s needed to accommodate widespread adoption of this new EV fashion statement…What’s happened is that in this rush to ‘feel good’ public policy (fueled by tax redistribution) has preceded REAL science…

3 tons