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Naio
Explorer II
May 25, 2016

Stupid battery and solar questions

I figure I am going to have a lot of them, so I better put all in one thread :B.

My situation:

- I mainly want solar for running residential freezer and fridge, maybe also for charging my shave ice machine batteries. I like to carry a lot of frozen food.

- I don't have a propane system in my rig. No RV fridge, no CO2 alarm, no hot water, no furnace. Stove uses canisters.

- I do have a 300watt space heater that I run a few times a year, usually for 5 minutes but sometimes for 30 if I have the juice.

- I have a 600watt microwave but I don't really expect the batteries to handle it. Shore power or genny.

- I have an ex650 genny. I also have an alternator connection but I usually don't drive much in a day.

- I am getting a bigger van, and am going to be spending some time in SoCal setting it up. I see there are lots of used solar items there on craigslist so I might buy some.

- I have my killawatt meter with me but I do NOT have my larger freezer, so I have to make some guesses about usage.

- My small freezer draws 65watts, unknown startup amps. My peak usage(shave ice charger, lights, mattress warmer, electronic devices, etc....) is about 400watts. In 24 hours of average use, including shave ice machine, I use about 60 somethings, based on notes from a test last summer. I get confused about units. Watt-hours? Looking online, larger freezer is guesstimated to draw another 200watts. So maybe make that 60 into a 90 or 100.

I may edit this OP if it becomes clear I have left out an important detail.

I am grateful to all of you for your knowledge and help!

124 Replies

  • Somethings= AH (Amp Hours). That which battery capacity is measured, and the draw of any given load if run for 60min.
  • Naio wrote:
    Are these the telecom batteries y'all talk about?
    Hard to tell both from the description and the link he provides.

    They look like 2v batteries. Not 12.
    Naio wrote:
    If I get MPPT, does it not matter AT ALL what voltage a panel is?
    It always matters. The controller specs will tell you what the acceptable voltage is.

    I don't know if a question can be called stupid, but there are plenty of lazy ones.
  • Naio, please remember this...

    "THERE ARE NO STUPID QUESTIONS! ONLY STUPID ANSWERS AND STATEMENTS!"

    12-volt rated solar panels are getting ridiculously expensive. Simply not worth the money. Like choosing a $50,000 40 mpg car solely for economy, rather than a 30 mpg car for $30,000

    Meaning, go with MPPT then play jigsaw puzzle on your roof, trying to fit panels.
  • Naio's avatar
    Naio
    Explorer II
    Starter questions:

    Should I avoid PWM, is it a dead technology?

    If I get MPPT, does it not matter AT ALL what voltage a panel is? E.g., could I use a 30-40v residential panel? Would that have other drawbacks? Wire size? Sturdiness?

    Are these the telecom batteries y'all talk about? Are his 145aH Dekas ok?

    What do you all think about 2 of his Dekas, plus my current house battery (AGM, unknown vintage, nominally 150aH but probably not that now, I am afraid to test it because testing killed its twin, runs all my non-freezer non-shaveice loads without batting an eyelash.)?

    And 1 or 2 225-300watt used panels?

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