towing with a Tesla!

philh wrote:

time2roll wrote:
The equipment is different but range is similar so that is the comparison. Sure there are also contrasts however I was just making the point 175 mile range is not an immediate fail.

Of course fueling the Tesla will be a bit lower cost... and we all know the real American past time is complaining about cost of petrol.

There is a long thread around here on that... but jumping to an EV is probably just a crazy as paying for petrol and getting 8 mpg. Pick your poison.

There's a pay to charge station not far from me. I don't recall the exact number, but it was something like $15 for 15 minutes. Never saw a single EV at that location.

Tsla chargers were mandatory or hardly anyone would have bit. The carrot and the stick will be in play because in the end it can't be any cheaper to drive fuel wise or the system is losing money.

The fuel tax revenue may drop but electirc will eventually have to carry the same load. How can it not? The vehicle maintenance may be less vs ice but I beat in the end there will be no savings on fuel. Sure, your own solar may help a good deal but massive electrical infrastructure upgrading will be needed.

time2roll wrote:
The equipment is different but range is similar so that is the comparison. Sure there are also contrasts however I was just making the point 175 mile range is not an immediate fail.

Of course fueling the Tesla will be a bit lower cost... and we all know the real American past time is complaining about cost of petrol.

There is a long thread around here on that... but jumping to an EV is probably just a crazy as paying for petrol and getting 8 mpg. Pick your poison.

There's a pay to charge station not far from me. I don't recall the exact number, but it was something like $15 for 15 minutes. Never saw a single EV at that location.

The equipment is different but range is similar so that is the comparison. Sure there are also contrasts however I was just making the point 175 mile range is not an immediate fail.

Of course fueling the Tesla will be a bit lower cost... and we all know the real American past time is complaining about cost of petrol.

There is a long thread around here on that... but jumping to an EV is probably just a crazy as paying for petrol and getting 8 mpg. Pick your poison.

time2roll wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
My F150 gets maybe 175 miles range and seems to work just fine

You only get 175mile range towing a small 3800lb trailer at 55mph?

Something doesn't sound right.

No I am closer to 7500 and 58-62 mph. Still not going to improve much unless lower profile is used such as a POP-UP or Trail Manor. And I would probably go with a low profile if using an EV.

Unfortunately my I-Pace does not allow towing and no hitch available.

So not really comparable as the example was a small lower profile rpod type with speeds kept low.

I'm betting you could bump up to at least 250mile range pulling that at lower speeds.

Hi,

During the warm up the battery is charging--just not as fast as is possible.

Tvov wrote:
Also interesting that on a cold morning, it was a 20 minute "warmup" before the battery would even start charging?

If it's something that millions of people need, and they can afford it.......(you know the rest).

valhalla360 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
My F150 gets maybe 175 miles range and seems to work just fine

You only get 175mile range towing a small 3800lb trailer at 55mph?

Something doesn't sound right.

No I am closer to 7500 and 58-62 mph. Still not going to improve much unless lower profile is used such as a POP-UP or Trail Manor. And I would probably go with a low profile if using an EV.

Unfortunately my I-Pace does not allow towing and no hitch available.

Itinerant1 wrote:
Google says...
Tesla Supercharging stations charge with up to 145 kW of power distributed between two adjacent cars, with a maximum of 120 kW per car. That is up to 16 times as fast as public charging stations; they take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100%.

Yes one charge to get 300 miles would be mostly OK. Two stops to get 450 miles would be a long day.

Google says...
Tesla Supercharging stations charge with up to 145 kW of power distributed between two adjacent cars, with a maximum of 120 kW per car. That is up to 16 times as fast as public charging stations; they take about 20 minutes to charge to 50%, 40 minutes to charge to 80%, and 75 minutes to 100%.

Interesting article. So... how long do the "supercharger" stations take? I didn't see that anywhere. They did mention that it was 8 to 10 HOURS using a 50amp connection at a campsite. Also interesting that on a cold morning, it was a 20 minute "warmup" before the battery would even start charging?

Distance - not that bad. I usually have to get fuel every 3-4 hours when towing. But... it is only a few minutes to fill the tank.

If battery / power storage issues can be figured out, electric will work.