Trojan t-1275 vs Signature series J150 RE
Before winter, I need to get a dedicated flooded house battery, my Northstar AGM-27 has been working hard as both house and engine battery for the last 4 months, and I want to return it to engine star...
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I guess I was hoping too much to get someone at Trojan to discuss their different lines, and discrepancies in weight and absorption voltages. I was not asking for proprietary info, and stated so.
The return Email basically said the T1275 and the J150 are exactly the same internally. that 50 amps from my alternator was too much, that 10 to 13% was the maximum rate, not just the 'recommended' rate.
At the bottom of the email was a long paragraph stating how the information was not to be shared and should be completely deleted afterwards. They shared nothing which needed to be deleted. If they did I would certainly respect that, but all the respondent did was repeat what I've already read, many times before, on their online documentation, and I did find this insulting.
When you seek an expert to ask a specific question and get a response directed at a nitwit, it is insulting, or at least I find it so.
Perhaps we should just print out, chop up and snort their own PDF spec sheets as to weight and recommended absorption voltage, along with the RE marketing Kool-aid.
How much variance can two batteries coming off the same line have?
Or is this a VW style type of dishonesty/Trickery?
I want a flooded battery. A true deep cycle battery, not one which just proclaims so on the sticker. I like taking SG readings, experimenting, learning how it responds to changing variables such as absorption voltages, durations, depth of discharge, rate of initial recharge, ect.
My Northstar AGM has largely robbed me of this. All I know is that after 5 cycles with low and solar only recharging, even to 0.4 amps at 14.5 volts each recharge, that voltage under load that night walks down further and further, and only a high amp recharge returns the performance both in terms of voltage held under load, but how quickly it cranks my starter and how low voltage falls during cranking before engine catches
The T-1275 is likely the largest actual flooded deep cycle battery I can actually fit in my vehicle. Usually a company who responded to my queries in such a manner would be banned, but I have little choice as everything else likely has half the plate thickness and falls much closer to a starting battery than a true deep cycle battery.
I would have paid extra for the J150 over the t1275 if the 2 extra pounds the PDF claimed were confirmed.
I won't be calling the number that was emailed to me after I replied I was disappointed in their response to my query about the topic. If there were another brand option in that size format, I would take it.
Even if it is a meaningless protest by an informed consumer.
Heck, maybe I should just start getting wally world group 29s and beat the snot out of those with 50% discharges and high amp recharges and try to cycle them to death and return them within the warranty period.
But I am not in the something for nothing crowd. I'll pay for quality, I just want to know what I'm paying for, not have smoke blown up my Keester.
I have access to a Garden hose and access to cigarettes if that were my desire.
The return Email basically said the T1275 and the J150 are exactly the same internally. that 50 amps from my alternator was too much, that 10 to 13% was the maximum rate, not just the 'recommended' rate.
At the bottom of the email was a long paragraph stating how the information was not to be shared and should be completely deleted afterwards. They shared nothing which needed to be deleted. If they did I would certainly respect that, but all the respondent did was repeat what I've already read, many times before, on their online documentation, and I did find this insulting.
When you seek an expert to ask a specific question and get a response directed at a nitwit, it is insulting, or at least I find it so.
Perhaps we should just print out, chop up and snort their own PDF spec sheets as to weight and recommended absorption voltage, along with the RE marketing Kool-aid.
How much variance can two batteries coming off the same line have?
Or is this a VW style type of dishonesty/Trickery?
I want a flooded battery. A true deep cycle battery, not one which just proclaims so on the sticker. I like taking SG readings, experimenting, learning how it responds to changing variables such as absorption voltages, durations, depth of discharge, rate of initial recharge, ect.
My Northstar AGM has largely robbed me of this. All I know is that after 5 cycles with low and solar only recharging, even to 0.4 amps at 14.5 volts each recharge, that voltage under load that night walks down further and further, and only a high amp recharge returns the performance both in terms of voltage held under load, but how quickly it cranks my starter and how low voltage falls during cranking before engine catches
The T-1275 is likely the largest actual flooded deep cycle battery I can actually fit in my vehicle. Usually a company who responded to my queries in such a manner would be banned, but I have little choice as everything else likely has half the plate thickness and falls much closer to a starting battery than a true deep cycle battery.
I would have paid extra for the J150 over the t1275 if the 2 extra pounds the PDF claimed were confirmed.
I won't be calling the number that was emailed to me after I replied I was disappointed in their response to my query about the topic. If there were another brand option in that size format, I would take it.
Even if it is a meaningless protest by an informed consumer.
Heck, maybe I should just start getting wally world group 29s and beat the snot out of those with 50% discharges and high amp recharges and try to cycle them to death and return them within the warranty period.
But I am not in the something for nothing crowd. I'll pay for quality, I just want to know what I'm paying for, not have smoke blown up my Keester.
I have access to a Garden hose and access to cigarettes if that were my desire.
