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MEXICOWANDERER
Jun 12, 2018Explorer
Add my kudos toward mister Land Yacht. He steps up with facts, figures and opinions which I have high regard for.
The older I get the more impatient I am with badly engineered electrical. Manufacturing a simple device like a fan motor with almost unlimited life would not be difficult but it would not be inexpensive either. Is it hard to imagine a society where recycling old but extremely durable parts becomes the norm?
To wit
In the 1930's WINCO built incredibly durable windmill generators for rural off-grid use. They designed stuff correctly. Vacuum pot varnished rotors and stators, cast iron housings and oil not grease lubricated bearings. Many of the generators lasted forty years or more before they were lowered from their towers for a maintenance turnaround. WINCO today is a fable. Older units are almost impossible to find and they bring heart-attack prices. Like a Bugatti Royale. A thousand times their original purchase price.
There is nothing wrong with over building. Today's RV's "last" so many years. What is wrong with the idea of building an expensive fan that has a coveted motor that is pre-sold before it even hits the market as being used. Throw away the garbage but keep the motor for resale. If it is near bulletproof a fan motor that costs 120 dollars new can be recovered and resold for say a hundred and five dollars. This keeps mount Everest quantities of toxic landfill being generated and reduces the raping of raw materials that is ravaging the (here comes a term liberals love) PLANET.
I worked with St. Mary's carbon to develop alternator brushes back in the nineteen eighties. Specialty brushes that ranged for 1/8" to 3/16" longer than OEM. They were a proprietary blending of carbon and graphite and boy were they pricey. Standard brushes will last "X" hours. My brushes lasted just a hair less than 140% as long. I replaced lube in both bearings and insisted in NTN LUA brand (except for needle bearings which called for genuine Torrington). By replacing OEM grade rectifiers with top capacity models from RENARD, and voltage regulators with top grade TRANSPO regulator models that used previously unheard of MOSFET finals my stuff carved a niche market. Especially in the RV and emergency vehicle markets in Los Angeles area. Yes my remans cost more. The cheap-at-any-price crowd, retail and wholesale turned up their "lifetime warranty" nose at them.
But chew and spit economics is destroying this world. Plastic in whales. Gobs of plastic at the bottom of the Marianas trench. I won't live long enough to endure the final catastrophe but some of you will.
So forgive my ranting at the chew & spit lifestyle. The market, the economy, the demand. It disgusts me.
The older I get the more impatient I am with badly engineered electrical. Manufacturing a simple device like a fan motor with almost unlimited life would not be difficult but it would not be inexpensive either. Is it hard to imagine a society where recycling old but extremely durable parts becomes the norm?
To wit
In the 1930's WINCO built incredibly durable windmill generators for rural off-grid use. They designed stuff correctly. Vacuum pot varnished rotors and stators, cast iron housings and oil not grease lubricated bearings. Many of the generators lasted forty years or more before they were lowered from their towers for a maintenance turnaround. WINCO today is a fable. Older units are almost impossible to find and they bring heart-attack prices. Like a Bugatti Royale. A thousand times their original purchase price.
There is nothing wrong with over building. Today's RV's "last" so many years. What is wrong with the idea of building an expensive fan that has a coveted motor that is pre-sold before it even hits the market as being used. Throw away the garbage but keep the motor for resale. If it is near bulletproof a fan motor that costs 120 dollars new can be recovered and resold for say a hundred and five dollars. This keeps mount Everest quantities of toxic landfill being generated and reduces the raping of raw materials that is ravaging the (here comes a term liberals love) PLANET.
I worked with St. Mary's carbon to develop alternator brushes back in the nineteen eighties. Specialty brushes that ranged for 1/8" to 3/16" longer than OEM. They were a proprietary blending of carbon and graphite and boy were they pricey. Standard brushes will last "X" hours. My brushes lasted just a hair less than 140% as long. I replaced lube in both bearings and insisted in NTN LUA brand (except for needle bearings which called for genuine Torrington). By replacing OEM grade rectifiers with top capacity models from RENARD, and voltage regulators with top grade TRANSPO regulator models that used previously unheard of MOSFET finals my stuff carved a niche market. Especially in the RV and emergency vehicle markets in Los Angeles area. Yes my remans cost more. The cheap-at-any-price crowd, retail and wholesale turned up their "lifetime warranty" nose at them.
But chew and spit economics is destroying this world. Plastic in whales. Gobs of plastic at the bottom of the Marianas trench. I won't live long enough to endure the final catastrophe but some of you will.
So forgive my ranting at the chew & spit lifestyle. The market, the economy, the demand. It disgusts me.
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