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BFL13
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Nov 20, 2018

Would Higher Octane Run the Gen Better? UPDATE

UPDATE 21 Nov page 5

Ongoing saga with my 1700w (continuous) gen trying to run my 75 amp charger at 75 amps. Briggs and Stratton P2200 gen.

Previously posted that it would not (flashing overload red light), then discovered I still had it choked. Next test was to run it with the batteries full, but with an inverter draw of 127 amps, then turn on the charger, but now with the gen choke in the right place. Amps now -52 so 127 minus 52 = 75 amps from the converter/charger. No flashing overload light on gen. So I reported success.

Just been camping off grid, did a recharge with the gen and the 75 amper. No red light at first. 75 amps to battery bank. Then after a few minutes the red light started flashing but gen kept running.(It can shut off with overload.) Switched to the 55 amp charger and no red light.

We know that running a charger as a power supply is easier than doing an actual battery recharge due to the higher battery resistance. Sometimes it can do its full amps as a power supply, but might not be able to do its full amps on the battery. BUT--I thought that if it did its 75 amps as supply that was the same effort as doing 75 amps on a battery.

Here, 75 amps on battery seems to take more effort from the charger than doing supply, so needs more from the generator? 75 is not the same 75?

Also there is some relationship between the generator engine running and the power output, as seen when it was choked and did less 120v power. I am wondering if the gen would run the 75 amper without the flashing overload light if only the engine ran a little "better" (not sure what I mean by that in what the engine would have to do) More revs?

The manual mentions engine getting bogged down with too much load-I did not hear it running slower.

So finally after all that background--would the engine do "better" if it ran on higher octane gasoline? It has 87 now (regular). And if it did, would that make the difference to output power I need where I am just on the edge for running that 75 amper?

Engine is 6.77 cu-in(111 cc), 4500 revs single-cylinder, revolving field, wants 87 octane minimum below 2500 ft altitude.

I will not have an opportunity to try that for a while, so I am asking here to learn if it is worth trying at all. Thanks.
  • I have found that my Honda 2000I runs much smoother when I use ethanol free gasoline.
  • What exact battery charger are you operating?

    The battery resistance is a non-issue. Amps are amps on the DC side of the circuit. What may be happening is that the charger output voltage may be changing which can change power output and requiring more or less input power.

    An inverter generator is power limited at reduced RPM. The generator creates DC power that supplies the inverter. Lower RPM means lower generator output power and less power available from the inverter.
  • It should be noted that ethanol provides an octane boost along with an energy density loss to any gasoline mix. I don't expect that merely higher octane fuel would offer an improvement, but a no-ethanol gas might. I don't know about BC, but here in the states, at least on the East Coast, no-ethanol gas is available, but you have to search for it. It is not usually needed for cars, but small engines often do better with it.
  • Not likely. Less ethanol may help. Lower charging amps would not hurt either. It is OK to not run everything at the very max.

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