For Jeff’s sake I hope so too. Odds are though, it’s the tip of the iceberg.
Hard to put faith in the arguably most maligned light duty diesel of this century.
I only say arguably as its predecessor is definitely in the running for the bottom spot as well. When 2 separate, completely different engine families only make it a a collective 8 years, when the roi should be 15-20 or more years, before the mfg pulls the plug and literally goes back to the drawing board, it should be like reading a “do not swim here - alligators in pond” sign.
Hell, Ford began developing the 6.7 Scorpion in 2006, a year before the 6.0 went away. And the 6.0 was so bad they couldn’t wait it out a few years because even the blinded by blue Koolaid customers would have dipped out. That’s why they had to get a stop gap engine (the 6.4) so they could at least appear like they’d done something good. Hoping to not have too many problems the first year or 2, to get them by.
I remember working up on the North Slope 11-12 years ago As one may know, oilfield trucks and equipment are almost exclusively diesel powered. Not just for power and long engine life but for safety reasons. Diesel isn’t flammable
Anywho, in 2013, most of the companies on the Slope were babying and milking along pre tier IV emissions light diesel trucks because idling 2-3000 hrs a year was not compatible with early tier iv AT ALL. And much better but not great with the newer tier iv with better technology, DEF, SCR etc.
I was at one of our subcontractors shops in Deadhorse and they had a mix of all the big 3 pickups. Hundreds of them. They were probably 50% 6.0 diesel Fords, 40% Duramax (LB7 to LBZ) and 10% Dodge. No Cummins because Dodge didn’t make a full crew cab until the 06 Mega and only 2 years of that before tier iv went into effect. And couldn’t be had with a long box. Why Dodge never made a crew cab pickup from 1994 thru 2009 is baffling. Anyway….
These trucks racked up the hours. Not the miles. A 20,000 hour pickup truck might have 10k miles on it and 3 wore out seats
Their light duty shop had 2 rows of engines near a wall. Probably 30-40 engines iirc. They were ALL 6.0 Flowerjokes. One row was blown engines one was new engines.
Next to those rows sat I think 3 duramax engines and 0 Cummins (but to be fair they didn’t have many of those trucks and the ones they had were duallys with service boxes. In fact all their light service trucks were Cummins trucks because they rarely transported more than 1-2 people (mechanics).
I wish I could say I made this stuff up. First time I drove a 03 6.0no I was blown away by the power and sound….and the intercooler boot coming off twice in the first week and the EGR issues and the vgt issues (Ford was first with vgt I’ll credit) and a year later I got a V10 with less power and no problems. Because as a company we **bleep** canned ALL the 6.0s in about a year after buying them.
Best of luck!!
I missed a couple interesting things in this post the other day, I can tell you exactly why dodge had to wait to make a crew cab. ford bought controlling stock in Cummins and dodge wasn't going to be able to make any new Cummins powered vehicles unless they agreed to the delay on crew cabs.
also idling any vehicle is hard, I love the fact that the newer trucks will show both run hours and idle hours so you know which ones to stay away from. we have issues with the trucks at work (all gas powered) because the amount of idle time, plus now we are getting hit with all the problems the chev 6.2 and 6.6 are having to the point where my crew's 4 trucks usually only 1 is running at any given time. they are looking for new trucks for us now and maybe moving away from chev all together.
Well that makes sense, good strategic move by Ford. I did not know that.
so Dodge lost the battle and Ford lost the war. Just think how popular Sooper Doodys would be if they were ALL Fummins!!
Hope the new everything in Jeff’s low mileage cooling system keeps it from overheating. Among other things, the cooling systems are sooo finicky on the 6.0s.
By comparison, our 07 5.9 Cummins Ram, when it was pretty new, our young boys got a kick out of folding over the radiator fins one day when I removed the gaudy aftermarket grille inserts it came with. They smashed about 50-60% of the fins flat on whatever was in the front of the cooling stack. Never needed fixed. Uphill towing in the dead of summer. Just fine. Now that’s a good cooling system.
I did throw a water pump at it at around 130k before a cross country trip. Just because it was old and they are cheap and easy to replace.
we need a rolling eyes / slap in the face reply for your posts sometimes.
lol, maybe, yeah. But Camper Jeff knows what he got into (for whatever reason) and you’re a Ford Superfan, yet no 6.0 in your driveway I bet.
I wrote what I wrote in the event someone besides the 3 of us reads these, while contemplating that “great deal” for a 6 litre Ford diesel.
PS, didn’t make none of that up.
I’ve known a few folks with good ones too. But they were actually bulletproofed.
Just so many other/better options out there. Unless you’re looking for a challenge….then it’s the perfect engine!
na, I bought 99 a 7.3 diesel and just got rid of it in 2016 when I bought the new 5th wheel, and the truck that happened to be there when I was looking was my 6.7. I was looking at a dually king ranch with a 6.0 in it before than when I couldn't understand what I would ever want a dually for 🙄.
I am not afraid of the 6.0, what would back me off is if some one had it tuned. then I would run away like a bad dream. if it was stock and owned by one of those old men who had a little book with every fuel purchase and fuel milage and oil changes and any other maintenance like I found in my 1999, I would be all over it haha
its far from the perfect engine, but if treated right it is good. I like the 6.4 even more even though it was a horror show, but when deleted and tuned it was a monster haha.. but no my favorite is the 6.7 followed by the 7.3, I am just over the noise of the older diesels now.
I wouldn't call my self a super fan, I do like ford, but when I got my last truck I test drove them all, the dodge felt to slow and road the roughest so it was the first one off the list. almost bought the chev dually but the sales person was a jerk and my wife told me we were leaving. we just happened across this one I have on a 2 year lease return and it had all the features we needed. wife has a bad back so we needed heated seats and I wanted power window and lock, and AC because I live a few feet out of hell haha.
