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JIMNLIN
Nov 28, 2007Explorer III
wadcutter/jmiller
your both ingnoring those FMCSA rules I've mentioned for under 26000 lb class of vehicles. Part 571.3 clearly is a definition of GAWR/GCWR/GVWR and that link to a MCS-150 application for a USDOT which clearly points to vehicles GVWR/GCWR. Are either of you aware we have a over 10000 lb GVWR class per FMCSA. Find it and read it and check with your state on their interpetation/enforcement. So far neither of you have produced any document stating the vehicles GVWR/GAWR is nothing legal other than your opinions.
I understand full well how my state uses FMCSA regs to implement state licensing and follow those regs for weight enforcement of over 10000 lb vehicles. I full well understand my state uses those definitions mentioned above for commercial and non commercial enforcement. Miller says my state hasn't added GAWR in its own codes. That dot lieutenant and the OHP troop captain say different. Guess who I'm gonna' believe and I didn't even ask them for "where is it documented".
Its apparant neither one of you have ever towed commercial with a 3500 DRW truck, as a example, with a combined tag/cdl/us dot number. I have and the truck GVWR (right off the door tag ) plus the GVWR of the trailer (right of the trailer plates) gives us our combined for tags and that number goes into the application process for usdot number also. No, just like both of you, I don't have any document other than experience and verbal info from other operators and my state LEO on what it takes to comply.
Jmiller says were talking about RVs. Well,it just so happens my state uses both for commercial purposes and non commercial according to my state dot officer and state trooper. Thats enough for me.
edit for adding to above GVWR info is in my state for over 8000 GVWR vehicles vehicles we may raise our GVWR to 15000 max and no I don't have any documentation other than my tag office.
your both ingnoring those FMCSA rules I've mentioned for under 26000 lb class of vehicles. Part 571.3 clearly is a definition of GAWR/GCWR/GVWR and that link to a MCS-150 application for a USDOT which clearly points to vehicles GVWR/GCWR. Are either of you aware we have a over 10000 lb GVWR class per FMCSA. Find it and read it and check with your state on their interpetation/enforcement. So far neither of you have produced any document stating the vehicles GVWR/GAWR is nothing legal other than your opinions.
I understand full well how my state uses FMCSA regs to implement state licensing and follow those regs for weight enforcement of over 10000 lb vehicles. I full well understand my state uses those definitions mentioned above for commercial and non commercial enforcement. Miller says my state hasn't added GAWR in its own codes. That dot lieutenant and the OHP troop captain say different. Guess who I'm gonna' believe and I didn't even ask them for "where is it documented".
Its apparant neither one of you have ever towed commercial with a 3500 DRW truck, as a example, with a combined tag/cdl/us dot number. I have and the truck GVWR (right off the door tag ) plus the GVWR of the trailer (right of the trailer plates) gives us our combined for tags and that number goes into the application process for usdot number also. No, just like both of you, I don't have any document other than experience and verbal info from other operators and my state LEO on what it takes to comply.
Jmiller says were talking about RVs. Well,it just so happens my state uses both for commercial purposes and non commercial according to my state dot officer and state trooper. Thats enough for me.
edit for adding to above GVWR info is in my state for over 8000 GVWR vehicles vehicles we may raise our GVWR to 15000 max and no I don't have any documentation other than my tag office.
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