Gunpilot77 wrote:
If you were to be believed, i.e., that OK requires RVs to comply with commercial regs then all of us with rigs over 10,000 GVWR would be required to have a med card.
I read the post on page 16, and could care less about FMCSA regs while towing my 5er. How about the phone number and name of your all knowing trooper. Every time I pass thru OK I plan on stopping at the scales to test your assertions, but they are always closed.
And this is what pipewelder said; "As for the GVWR from the manufacturers, this is for warrantys and guidelines." You conveniently ignored that part.
Once again this thred is about fed regs and nowhere have I said OK requires RVs to comply with commercial regs/med cards. So thats a non issue. What I said was that door tag GVWR/GAWR are legal issues. The 390.5 reg on "missing GVWR tag" I posted just proves that point. This thread is about fed regs. How is door tag GVWR applied and how is GAWR used.
As far as GVWR pertains to non commercial which includes RVs, its not used in my state for combined combos. Thats where door tag GAWR/tire caps come to play per OK reg title 47 "weighing of vehicles". As the 390.5 reg the trooper gave me says door tag (placard) GVWR is used in determining the applicability of FMCSRs.
OK scale house will wave you on through with a RV umless you have a dot number on the truck.
Troopers name and phone number. LOL. Now isn't that original. If your really interested , which I doubt, here is OHP troop S phone number 405-521-6103 which is our commercial weights division. There will be a lieutenant on duty to answer your question on how OK uses door tag GVWR/GAWR either commercial or non commercial. Their going to tell you the same thing I've said as I've already talked with them last fall. Be sure and ask the officer for OK regs numbers.
the 390.5 reg is about operators making it impossible for roadside officers to determine ;
Question 3: If a vehicle’s GVWR plate and/or VIN number are missing but its actual gross weight is 10,001 pounds or more, may an enforcement officer use the latter instead of GVWR to determine the applicability of the FMCSRs?
Guidance: Yes. The only apparent reason to remove the manufacturer’s GVWR plate or VIN number is to make it impossible for roadside enforcement officers to determine the applicability of the FMCSRs, which have a GVWR threshold of 10,001 pounds. In order to frustrate willful evasion of safety regulations, an officer may therefore presume that a vehicle which does not have a manufacturer’s GVWR plate and/or does not have a VIN number has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more if: (1) It has a size and configuration normally associated with vehicles that have a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more; and (2) It has an actual gross weight of 10,001 pounds or more.
A motor carrier or driver may rebut the presumption by providing the enforcement officer the GVWR plate, the VIN number or other information of comparable reliability which demonstrates, or allows the officer to determine, that the GVWR of the vehicle is below the jurisdictional weight threshold.
All I'm saying is this proves the door tag is a legal fed issue and is more than a mattress tag or just for warranty issues.
