Gunpilot77 wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:
Once again this thred is about fed regs and nowhere have I said OK requires RVs to comply with commercial regs/med cards. So thats a non issue.
11/12/07 you said" His comment on what vehicle weights they use for enforcement for our non commercial trucks was in his words mirrowed the same weight regs as dot uses."
the same door tag GVWR/GAWR issues pertaining to it legal use.
JIMNLIN wrote:
What I said was that door tag GVWR/GAWR are legal issues. The 390.5 reg on "missing GVWR tag" I posted just proves that point.
Once again, you did not quote anything out of 390.5 . 390.5 is the section that lists definitions, nothing else.
heres is 390.5 reg from the FMCSA web site
Question 3: If a vehicle’s GVWR plate and/or VIN number are missing but its actual gross weight is 10,001 pounds or more, may an enforcement officer use the latter instead of GVWR to determine the applicability of the FMCSRs?
Guidance: Yes. The only apparent reason to remove the manufacturer’s GVWR plate or VIN number is to make it impossible for roadside enforcement officers to determine the applicability of the FMCSRs, which have a GVWR threshold of 10,001 pounds. In order to frustrate willful evasion of safety regulations, an officer may therefore presume that a vehicle which does not have a manufacturer’s GVWR plate and/or does not have a VIN number has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more if: (1) It has a size and configuration normally associated with vehicles that have a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more; and (2) It has an actual gross weight of 10,001 pounds or more.
A motor carrier or driver may rebut the presumption by providing the enforcement officer the GVWR plate, the VIN number or other information of comparable reliability which demonstrates, or allows the officer to determine, that the GVWR of the vehicle is below the jurisdictional weight threshold.
"applicability and definitions"
Also, on 11/19/07 you claimed that you could exceed the door tag numbers
"let me say this again. When we apply and operate with combined plates for a 3500 truck [example] the door tag GVWR and the trailers GVWR is added together to make my combined numbers. If the state the truck is registered in has a uprate GVWR [as my state] that it is my registered GVWR. My last 3500 DRW had the 15000 GVWR uprate registration plus the 16000 GVWR trailer gave me my combined 31000 lb combined."
So which is it? Or do you have a special Dodge 3500 with a GVWR of 15,000 equipped with special axles that have a total weight capability of 15,000? My Dodge duelly axle ratings added together is 12,000.
Repeating the same gibberish over and over will not make it true.
And I will call the number you listed.
talk about gibbrish. My only claim was uprating GVWR to 15000 lb for my combined plates. If I choose not to uprate I use the trucks GVWR for a combined plate. GAWRs cannot be changed. Apparenty your state doesn't have a uprate tonnage/weight/etc as my state and others do. While your asking question go over on some of the commercial haulers webs and let them explain how GVWR is used and how GAWR come to play concerning combined towing. Try uship.com and ask 1 mean dog to explain door tag issues. He ain't nice but he can explain it much better than I can.
