JIMNLIN wrote:
Lots of claims and counterclaims/bashing/personell remarks but no one has made a comment on the fed reg on missing door tag GVWR tag. Anyone care to make a guess ??
That would be because their is no fed reg on missing door tags. The clickie takes you to the entire 390.5 The interpretation link is not a regulation and is not part of 390.5
The answer to your #1 is false, reread what the Lt. said about my GVWR on my trailer and about the max allowable weight on my pickup with tires over the original weight rating.
#2 does not apply, I was not refering to commercial registration. You were never busted at a weigh station because you were registered for the weights you were hauling. They could care less about the manufacturers GAWR. As non-commercial RVers we don't cross scales, but the 20,000 max per axle still applies. It is about damaging roads, not about a tag on the door piller or the trailer.
I had a feeling you wouldn't agree with the very people who you claim is the source for your misinformation. You would be a natural writer for the TV show Spin City if it was still on the air. You twist and turn and change your story so often that the intent of the thread is forgotten. Here it is in it's entirety;
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Some on this forum suggests that RAWR per the door sticker is legally binding by federal law. Specifically by para f of FMCSA:
(f) Except as provided herein, States may not enforce on the Interstate System vehicle weight limits of less than 20,000 pounds on a single axle, 34,000 pounds on a tandem axle, or the weights derived from the Bridge Formula, up to a maximum of 80,000 pounds, including all enforcement tolerances. States may not limit tire loads to less than 500 pounds per inch of tire or tread width, except that such limits may not be applied to tires on the steering axle. States may not limit steering axle weights to less than 20,000 pounds or the axle rating established by the manufacturer, whichever is lower.
The argument is that the last half of the last sentence "the axle rating established by the manufacturer, whichever is lower." is referring to the door sticker RAWR.
It is my contention that this actually refers to the "steering axle" which according to my English classes is the subject of the sentence. My contention is to find a standard relating to the rear axle in para f you have to refer back to the first sentence:
"States may not enforce on the Interstate System vehicle weight limits of less than 20,000 pounds on a single axle"
I would like to hear from LEO's who might have a comment on this subject. I would also love to hear from anyone who can post a copy of a citation issued for exceeding door sticker weight ratings. A link to the violated code would be nice also.
My only agenda here is to find out what really is and what really is not. I have intentionally omitted the names of those who make these claims because I want this to be about the law not people's claims.
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You add just enough fact to the mix to make your story almost believable. Take this in all sincerety because I truly mean it. I can only think of two other members of the forum that have less credibility than you. You crack me up, or else I wouldn't bother wasting my time on you.
